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PATRICIAANN74 Posts: 78
2/11/13 12:52 P

Don't waste your money with supplements. I just use ground caynenne to season my food. Or I mix it with sodium free chicken broth. Not for "fat burning," but simply because the spiciness makes me feel fuller longer.

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2/6/13 1:27 P

Of course not... he's a corporate shill who doesn't care if it works or not, as long as he gets paid!


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DIDS70 Posts: 5,368
2/6/13 12:59 P

I was really curious about this and I am so NOT a Dr. Oz fan. So I actually went to his facebook page. They were talking about his latest show and there were so many posts that basically said none of his supplements worked. One lady spent hundreds of dollars and lost nothing. Others had medications react negatively.
Some of his shows mention three or 4 different supplements, so people automatically think they can take them together-- I don't think he says one way or the other.
Anyway, most of the people were discrediting. I also checked his site and got the same kind of comments. People are not seeing the results that he is promoting.

:)
BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,359
2/6/13 12:20 P

I think i probably expend more calories "burning up" when i hear something about Dr. Oz that makes me fume. Which is approximately daily. Hmmm if they could stick "Oz-induced ire" into gelatin caplets, i could sell 'em and be rich!

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2/6/13 12:15 P

The research I've read about capsaicin and such is that while there IS a metabolic boost, it's SLIGHT! And it tapers off after a while; you're not going to see that boost continually.

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RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
2/6/13 11:42 A

I'm having chili today, and added cayenne pepper. Hopefully I burn an extra 3 calories.

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2/6/13 9:32 A

Perhaps not, but most people don't even take dosage into consideration and most supplements like this are body weight dependent.

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NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
2/6/13 9:28 A

540mg isn't actually that much... I put more than that in arrabbiatta when I make it... yum!

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2/6/13 9:18 A

Dr. Oz is a bozo, but there is a bit of research related to capsaicin. Link and relevant text below. But take special note of the dosage. 6mg/kg bodyweight. So a 200 pound person would need to take 540mg to get these effects. Also, there are side effects to be aware of. It's probably a lot easier and cheaper to simply eat a bit less. The slight increase in metabolic rate isn't going to do much to offset a calorie surplus.

examine.com/supplements/Capsaicin/

"Capsaicin has been shown to induce catecholamine (adrenaline-like compounds) secretion[16][17] which exerts beta-adrenergic like effects.[18] These effects were seen at approximately 6mg/kg bodyweight. These effects have been replicated in humans with red pepper added to meals.[19][20][21]

In addition to slightly increasing the metabolic rate via beta-adrenergic stimulation, capsaicin can also change more systemic energy metabolism towards utilizing fat rather than carbohydrate[19][22] and exerts an appetite suppressing effects."

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CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
2/6/13 8:22 A

Every time I hear of something else he's promoted; I just roll my eyes and think of him as a snake oil salesman.

If I eat cayenne, cinnamon, and other spices - it's because that's what I want in my FOOD.
Real food.
Not pills, not capsules, not drops, and not junk, or something else to waste money buying.

Sorry - just have absolutely no faith in ANYTHING he says, and never watch him on purpose (sometimes when I'm in the doctor's office and it's on; I overhear him - but that's it)

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
2/6/13 4:21 A

Both cinnamon and cayenne pepper have long been considered metabolism-boosters in the "old wives tale" sense (I'm NOT saying there's ANY proof or research to back that up). But the idea has been around for ages. It may even be true that cayenne speeds up your metabolism by 3 calories/day -- but it's not going to "melt fat off" of you or whatever.

I actually DO find that spicy food makes me eat less, it's more satisfying somehow. So maybe that's where the whole idea comes from? Of course you only need a few sprinkles from your spice rack, not a $$$ supplement.....

Edited by: NAUSIKAA at: 2/6/2013 (04:22)
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2/5/13 10:42 P

The only thing I've heard (don't watch oz) is that cayenne and hot/spicy in general can help suppress hunger, and maybe increase metabolism.

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2/5/13 9:56 P

BARNEYKH - If you're losing inches, that's great. That's a better indication of weight loss anyway because scales can be misleading (as you have probably figured out).

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2/5/13 9:50 P

Thanks Good luck on your goal :)

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GODS_SERENITY Posts: 3,058
2/5/13 9:06 P

There are some benefits to cayenne pepper. The pills would be a waste of money. Using the actual cayenne spice in lemon water will increase your energy. I doubt if it will burn fat and cause you to lose weight fast. I use it once a week. If you do a search you will find some of the benefits. BUT it has to be the actual spice not a pill. As others have stated it's also calories in calories out and exercise and a well balanced diet.

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ANARIE Posts: 12,574
2/5/13 8:14 P

It's gotten to the point where if Dr. Oz has something on his show, you can be pretty sure it DOESN'T work.

He's barely even a doctor anymore. He only operates once a week, the bare minimum to keep his privileges, and several long-time friends of his have been quoted saying that they still really love him, but they can't in good conscience refer patients to him because he doesn't practice enough to be good. He really is just an entertainer.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,359
2/5/13 4:15 P

So i Googled around a bit. The only references i can find to cayenne and "clearing arteries" is on "alternative medicine" sites... and on Livestrong.

Finding conventional medical/scientific information on this claim was more difficult. But I did find some information on a couple of university department of medicine sites. For example

pennstatehershey.adam.com/content.aspx?pro
ductId=107&pid=33&gid=000230


"being investigated for treating circulatory problems" is interesting but falls short of a rousing endorsement ...

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SUSAN_FOSTER Posts: 1,228
2/5/13 3:51 P

Clears arteries? I'd love to see how someone explains THAT. Remember - just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true.

Stick to the basics.

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2/5/13 3:20 P

Well gang what Im reading on other sites is it is good for the heart and lungs and does clear arteries. Im just not a pepper person but I could have become a pepper person if it truly did burn 40% more fat. I do the gym 5 days a week but can't lose weight. Im losing inches but im either up 5lbs or down and I would have tho't I would have lost more then 20#s in a year as I walk 4 miles a day also and often bike 8 miles plus walk 4.0 mph for 25 mins. In other words 1 hr a day of cardio and weights every other day. Full body workouts with a trainer. Recently found nodules on my both sides of my throid so I do have a dr appt to find out what's next but the reg. blood work shows thyroid normal. I need to lose minimal 50 #s. So frustrating...yes I am losing inches.

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BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,359
2/5/13 1:36 P

Carrie, Ruth, Russell, THANK YOU for giving me a good hearty laugh emoticon

Almost deserves a thread of its own in the Cafe section... wacky diet ideas and the likelihood that Dr. Oz would push 'em!

To the OP, I just don't see how cayenne could have any effect on weight loss. It's just a hot pepper. It's a good source of vitamin C, and it makes you sweat which can help you feel cooler on a hot summer day. It doesn't "burn" fat.

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RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
2/5/13 12:38 P

You spelled it right MissRuth. My SIL worked at the hospital where he would drop off bodies.

Dr. Oz is an entertainer more than a doctor now, especially when on the show. You may be onto something also. If you are full of pills and supplements, you won't eat, and will lose weight!!

I would take advice from Dr Seuss before Dr. Oz. Green eggs and ham would make me throw up, which would also result in weight loss.

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MISSRUTH Posts: 4,035
2/5/13 10:42 A

I am so tired of Dr. Oz. Every week it's something else. If you listened to him, you'd be popping so many pills, your stomach wouldn't have any room for real food. Raspberry ketones, green coffee beans, cayenne... the list goes on and on.

The thing is, every single one of these "miracle" supplements-- you're supposed to eat a well balanced diet, do some exercise, drink water along with whatever pills you take. Shoot, I lost my weight just with the diet and exercise and water part. Not a single pill of any kind, that costs money I'd rather spend on food.

It helps me to remember that although Dr. Oz may indeed be a doctor, Dr. Kevorkian (spelling?) was, too.

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2/5/13 10:17 A

Thank you...I know Im tired of losing my money.

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CALLMECARRIE Posts: 1,598
2/5/13 10:03 A

I seriously think I could look in my cupboard, write a bogus weight-loss book, slap on some fabricated scientific study, and make a killing advertising a "Lemon Pepper Plan" or "Dill Weed Diet" on Dr. Oz. And he could make it look like it worked!

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2/5/13 9:58 A

That man is a joke. He's pushing something new every week. Save your money, eat a balanced diet and stay active. No supplement will help you burn fat quicker.

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DIDS70 Posts: 5,368
2/5/13 9:21 A

I remember when he was promoting Raspberry Ketones. i went into a GNC to pick up some vitamin D3 and the clerk asked if I was looking for ketones. No, I replied. Why? He said that Dr. Oz was promoting it and they were out but were putting people on a list for when it came in.
Walked into the same store a few months later and they had so much they couldn't give it away.
The only cayenne I use is pepper. I love it in my smoothies and I am certainly not doing it on his word.
Don't worry, in about a month, he will tell you to use something else and stop cayenne.

:)
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2/5/13 8:03 A

Stop watching Dr. Oz. ;) Seriously, he's good for one thing: A nice laugh. He will push whatever supplement is currently hot, and is not a reliable source of weight loss information. There is rarely any real scientific evidence to back up his claims, and rushing out to buy whatever supplement he's shilling will indeed make you lose weight... in your wallet.

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SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 58,417
2/5/13 7:59 A

Hi Kathy

I'm pretty skeptical of anything Dr. Oz recommends, especially because it's something new each week. I've never seen any reliable research to say that cayenne will help with fat loss. I'd save your money and stick with a healthy diet and regular exercise, which is the only proven way to take weight off and keep it off for good.

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2/5/13 7:22 A

Watching Dr. Oz yesterday...spoke of Cayenne supplements to burn over 40% more fat when exercising....does anyone take it and is that true and which brand is best and where to order it. Thanks so much, Kathy

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