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SKINNYJWO10 Posts: 511
2/22/12 2:45 P

Just remember this, just because someone calls themself a "nutrtionist" doesn't meant they are more qualified than your BFF down the road giving health advice. It might be more beneficial to seek the help of a dietician instead.

Here's an interesting little bit on subject: dietitian versus nutritionist

A dietitian is an expert in food and nutrition. They give dietary advice, help promote healthy eating habits, develop specific diets for people, and participate in nutrition research. In the U.S., nutrition professionals include the registered dietitian (RD), and the dietetic technician, registered (DTR). They are regulated by the American Dietetic Association (ADA). They must meet strict educational and professional prerequisites and pass a national exam before they are registered dietitians.

Nutritionists are health specialists who are interested in food and nutritional science, preventative nutrition, diseases related to nutrient deficiencies, and the use of food and nutrients to cure disease and ailments.They also are not regulated. They have varying degrees of education in nutrition some have very little and some have a masters or phD. Since the term "nutritionist" isn't regulated, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist and dispense nutritional information without having any education whatsoever they even write books.

http://www.fitsugar.com/Dietitian-vs-Nut
ritionist-660208

SKIRTS4SUMMER12 Posts: 22
2/22/12 2:38 P

Unident- They have certified nutritionists on staff. The have a program that involves nutritional training and physical training!

SKINNYJWO10 Posts: 511
2/22/12 1:22 P

FISHFAN - thank you.

Here are my thoughts on NOT eating when you're not hungry. I posted about this exact subject earlier.

I realize there are MANY people who ONLY eat when hungry and this works for them but I personally (and many others) operate a tad differently and maybe this might work for you. I eat something every 3-4 hours by the clock..hungry or not. Breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack..Most of the time (when i'm doing this properly) I NEVER get starving hungry. For me personally, If i wait until my body is starving (getting busy and skipping a snack or meal) i overeat at the next meal. If you keep your body satisfied with healthy nutritious small snacks/meals throughout the day, you'll never allow yourself to become uncontrollably hungry. Kinda like that old saying about water - that once you're actually thirsty you're already dehydrated. This way of eating also allows me to keep almost ALL of my meals and snacks just about the same size (portion wise).

You KNOW your body needs a certain "minimum" amount of calories/fuel to keep your brain going, your heart and lungs pumping, hungry or not...your body still needs those calories. A general guideline is 1200 calories per day for women, 1500 for men, as it is VERY hard to get adequate nutrition when you fall below this range..I'm not saying to down a HUGE meal if you aren't hungry, but maybe eating a small snack such as a yogurt and some almonds, some string cheese, a hardboiled egg, etc. here and there throughout the day will help you add to your daily calorie range and keep your body fueled..Eating small snacks and meals is constant fuel to keep your metabolism going.

I think NEVER feeling super hungry is right on target BUT If you aren't at least eating your minimum calorie goals your body isn't getting the nutrients, protein, fiber, carbs, healthy fats it needs to function..even without exercise! Eventually eating under your calorie MINIMUM WILL catch up to you, slow your metabolic rate, and hinder more than help weight loss efforts..

Eating 1000 calories is never safe. I'm not saying MY way of eating by the clock is better than anyone else's way, but it's just an alternative if you're struggling with not hitting your "minimum calorie goals" each day. but in the end, do what works for YOU.... So FISHFAN I think upping your calories is THE smartest thing you could do for yourself. and tell your husband he's RIGHT! hahaha :)

Edited by: SKINNYJWO10 at: 2/22/2012 (13:50)
UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
2/22/12 1:07 P

Ask your gym about their nutritional training upon which they're offering you this advice. Many personal trainers offer nutritional advice when they should not. They are untrained and as ill-informed about what a "healthy" level to eat at is, as the person who thinks 1500 is "over-eating". You could be getting diet advice from someone who knows nothing about healthy ways to lose weight, and only about fad diets and eating very little.

FISHFAN Posts: 245
2/22/12 12:37 P

Great information from the replies in this forum. I thought my calories were high also and have been eating much less than they reccomended. My husband is taking this ride with me and he keeps asking if I am eating enough.

I'm losing about 2 pounds a week but now that I've picked up the exercise I think I'll take everyone's advice and try to increase my calorie intake closer to the reccomended 1500 (low point). I had changed mine to 1000-1200 and I realize it is too low but I am not really hungry so I am trying not to eat if I'm not hungry. By the way, SKINNYJWO10 you are a real inspiration! Thanks!

JASONZ Posts: 116
2/22/12 12:25 P

Awesome! Let us know what the gym says when they do your body-comp. Can't wait to hear how close it is to SP.

SKIRTS4SUMMER12 Posts: 22
2/22/12 11:49 A

I went to the gym today and talked to a trainer and on Monday I'm going to have a body composition test done and they will be able to tell me calorie range. I'm interested to see how close it is to SP!

Also, I'm looking at nutrition classes to see about rewiring my brain and eliminate some bad ideas about food!

SKINNYJWO10 Posts: 511
2/22/12 6:48 A

That's really great to hear! It's frustrating sometimes when others around you just don't "get it." I used to get looks and eye rolls from my own family members when I would show up for Sunday family dinner with my own prepared meal and salad...as if it was insulting. You can't rely on people who just haven't experienced what you're experiencing for advice. it's best to lean on them for support only and not weight loss advice. You are at the right place for advice..Spark is awesome and the whole site is filled with people who KNOW what you're going through, how you feel, know your struggles and can relate because we've done it or ARE doing it!!

and don't worry about the "time" you consume your calories. It IS better to eat meals and snacks spaced evenly throughout the day and most of your food earlier in the day but for me I struggled with that as well. Our scheduled at the time had me eating HALF of my day's calories for dinner and snacks afterwards...BUT I still managed to lose those 80lbs that year. It technically doesn't matter what "time" you eat. Calories in versus calories out is what matters. but if you can break this habit NOW it would really help you out. It took me a good 2 years to break the habit. Sometimes eating at night can give you acid reflux and interfere with sleeping patterns. It's the time of the day when you're "least" active so it just makes sense to try to avoid consuming a ton of calories...It took a LONGGG time but I finally kicked that habit and now I eat my largest meal at lunch so I have the entire day to work those calories off!

Please keep us updated on your progress! :)

SKIRTS4SUMMER12 Posts: 22
2/21/12 10:34 P

I think you are right. It is hard for me to grasp!!

I had a conversation with my mother about this tonight and she just kept saying that eating 800 calories for a few weeks won't hurt me! She does NOT get the concept of eating enough at all. Her and my sister are people who can lose weight just by thinking about it. lol

I'm going to keep with the 1500. I'm actually liking it. I need to just not save up all my calories for evening!

SKINNYJWO10 Posts: 511
2/21/12 7:01 P

It's VERY hard for a "life long dieter" to wrap their brains around the fact that you actually need to eat "enough" to lose. I know because I've been there. Eating too little with undoubtedly set you up for failure in the long run. Trust me! 1500 calories per day is NOT overeating...You both should be enjoying actually being ABLE to eat 1500-1800 calories per day and STILL lose a good 2 pounds per week while you can. This will NOT always be the case.. IMO you are both eating too low at 1200 calories.

as an example, i'm 159 pounds, 5'3" and I lose one pound per week eating at the top end of my range at 1550 calories and working out 3-4 days per week...

Edited by: SKINNYJWO10 at: 2/21/2012 (19:04)
SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 56,715
2/21/12 6:21 P

Skirts,

Based on your current weight, your calorie range sounds reasonable.

Coach Jen

SHELAHTODAY Posts: 6
2/21/12 5:01 P

I am 5 ft & started out 221 when I began on 1/15/12. I allow my calorie range to be1200-1500, and the 1500 is pushing it. I usually try to stick around the 1200 range, this works better for me. My goal is to lose a 100lbs in a year. I have lost 17lbs & I haven't pushed myself to exercise yet. I eat want I want within moderation, but I do make healthier choices.
P.S. My ticker should be 204 (my weight this morning) I haven't updated it yet.

Edited by: SHELAHTODAY at: 2/21/2012 (17:03)
SKIRTS4SUMMER12 Posts: 22
2/21/12 3:45 P

I'm 5ft tall and weigh 215. I'm at the max number per week they say I can lose.

I don't eat meager at all.This ain't my first rodeo... lol

Most days I push it to make it to 1200. I feel like 1500 is allowing me to overeat.

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
2/21/12 1:25 P

Here is how it is calculated. You can work out your own BMR and see exactly why this maths makes sense ...

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/calorie_calcu
lation101.asp


LUVS2WIN67 Posts: 1,060
2/21/12 1:11 P

Even though it may seem like alot, if you've inputted your information correctly it really does calculate what you need. I also watch the fat intake though...because you can be under in the calories department but way over in the fat (which most certainly won't do you any good.). If you think the 1800 is too high, try to aim for the 1500.

LAETU5 Posts: 1,405
2/21/12 1:06 P

Unless you are very short and small or extremely sedentary then it doesn't sound high to me unless you are trying to lose weight really quickly and aren't obese.

SUSAN_FOSTER Posts: 1,228
2/21/12 12:41 P

1500 is definitely not a high calorie level. What do you eat on a normal day? How many meals? I'm assuming you think that you have to live on meager portions, but trust me - you don't.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 56,715
2/21/12 10:13 A

Your calorie range is based on your current weight, goal weight, how long you've given yourself to lose the weight and how much exercise you're doing. So if you've set your goal for a slow rate of weight loss and/or you're exercising a lot, those could be 2 reasons why your range is higher than you'd expect.

It's important to make sure you're eating enough because eating too few calories is going to hurt more than help your weight loss efforts in the long run.

Hope that helps,

Coach Jen

SKIRTS4SUMMER12 Posts: 22
2/21/12 10:04 A

My calorie intake on here is listed from 1500-1800. That just seems really high to me. It was my grandmother's birthday and eating a serving of cheescake is what put me in my calorie range. With the cheesecakse I would have been 300 calories under my minimum! (yes I know cheesecake wasn't a good choice... but she is 82 and told me I had to eat it... lol)

I get really weird about counting calories so the whole process kinda freaks me out anyway.

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