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COLLEEN2334 SparkPoints: (1,859)
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1/10/13 9:15 P

Thank You Everybody,
It is a big help.
Have a Great Weekend.

ZENANDNOW SparkPoints: (68,476)
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1/10/13 3:05 P

I also limit myself to a daily calorie range of 1200-1500, and sometimes by the end of the day, I will have eaten less than 1200. I'm quite a large man, and from 11/1/12 -- 12/31/12 I lost a total of 60-pounds. That's an average of 30-pounds per month.

Many people tell me that this is unhealthy and I'm losing weight way to fast...and that I should "up" my daily calories. But because I'm so big, I can afford to lose more weight quicker than other people. Most of the initial weight-loss has been water/fluids I'm sure. At some point down the road this year, I will probably "up" my daily calorie intake a bit to slow down the rate of weight loss per month.

I expect to reach plateaus as well for a time, then hurdle them and continue downward in weight. I am slowly building up my exercise habits, as I never used to exercise at all before Nov 2012.

SKYE60 SparkPoints: (1,377)
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1/10/13 2:12 P

Stop and ask your self if you really need to do all that counting! For me, counting points, calories, weighing and portioning never worked. It became time consuming, boring, fustrating for me, after about a month and I quit. It seemed to me, I became MORE focused on food, almost to the point of obesessing. There are other tools that can help-maybe you need to refocus.

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (61,249)
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1/10/13 1:36 P

COLLEEN2334: No, you do not "eat back" the calories you burn. You do adjust your calorie range to account for the exercise you do, but that's easily done by updating your calorie burn goals in your fitness tracker. The more you work out, the more you will need to compensate for that, but realistically, it's a waste of time to "eat back" your calories.

YOJULEZ SparkPoints: (15,981)
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1/10/13 1:29 P

1200-1500 calories is the lowest range SP will give for weight loss. It also depends on what your end goal date is. If you have an aggressive date, you will get 1200-1500 pretty much no matter what.

The ranges they gave me worked for weight loss. Now in maintenance, the range they gave me is a little low (1480-1830) I ate around 1700 and still lost around a half pound a week. I gorged myself for two weeks over the holidays and maintained. I wish I had tracked to see exactly how much I was eating!

1/10/13 1:23 P

I typed all of my numbers in and SP said I needed to eat 1200-1500 calories per day. Then I told the big SP machine that I exercise for an hour a day. It said I needed to eat 1200-1500 calories a day. Then I told it that I exercise for 2 hours per day...and it told me that I needed to eat 1200-1500 calories a day.

That seemed just a little me.

MISSRUTH Posts: 4,231
1/10/13 11:12 A

The combination of eating less AND burning more, is what takes the weight off. So you don't want to "add back in" the calories. Defeats the purpose.

Even when you get to maintenance, the amount of calories you get to eat each day, factors in how many you plan to burn each day through exercise. I suppose if you did twice as much time on the treadmill as you'd planned, you could eat whatever that extra time worked out to be. in calories. But unless you reeeeeally overdid it on the exercise, pretty much your calorie RANGE covers those fluctuations. Eating at the higher end of your range would be appropriate on a more active than usual day.

But no, you do not add back in calories for exercise you've told Spark you're going to do-- it's already taken that into consideration when figuring out your calorie range.

COLLEEN2334 SparkPoints: (1,859)
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1/10/13 7:04 A

I understood that the exercising was to lose weight, not to do it so I could eat more.
But someone said to eat it back. I feel like that is defeating the purpose of exercise.

ETHELMERZ Posts: 19,188
1/9/13 9:05 P

Alot of those "charts" are bunk, and have been for years. Plus, each person's body reacts differently to foods, exercise, metabolism, and even that changes for the same person on a different day, or at a different age. Let's face it, if it were easy, a person would only need one book, one diet, one exercise, lose weight, and be done for the rest of their life. That ain't never gonna happen, and keeps this billion dollar business going. Been doing this game off and on since I was 12 years old, following a "Teen" magazine diet........and the beat goes on forever, friends. You can never quit, whatever you are doing to lose the weight, no matter how many times you reach "goal".

GRAMCRACKER46 Posts: 1,764
1/9/13 8:22 P

I am +66 years and found it hard to believe I should eat more. I have lost about 1 lb per month for the last 2 years eating at the lower end of my range. Over the few weeks of holidays I are more and lost 2 lbs and my clothes fit better. Hmm.

Now I'm really perplexed.

Someone asked if you can eat back the calories you burn. I'm not sure but I would think no. If you track yore calories burned the tracked usually requires more food.

FLIPPITYFLOP SparkPoints: (654)
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1/9/13 8:01 P

Great answer! Im tired of people telling me Im not counting my calories right etc. Even my doc said I won't lose unless I stay around 1500 - 1600 calories a day. When I was in my 20's and 30s any time I cut back just a little the weight just fell off. Now that Im over 55 I eat less than my little wife just to maintain. But thats the way it is. Its not going to deter me though - I feel better just knowing Im not crazy!!

ANARIE Posts: 13,179
1/9/13 6:28 P

The problem with the calorie formulas is that they were originally calculated based on young, healthy people at their ideal weights (often college athletes, in fact.) They looked at what a healthy 20-year-old man who weighed 150 pounds burned and at what a healthy 20-year-old man who weighed 200 burned, and they assumed that the difference would hold true for any 50-pound interval. In other words, if the 200-pounder should eat 800 calories more than the 150-pounder, then a 300-pounder should eat 1600 calories more than a 200-pounder. Nobody has done serious studies on how much obese or overweight people burn, but in preliminary studies it turns out to apparently be a lot less than healthy people at the same weight. In other words, when I (at 5'1") weighed 185 pounds, the charts said I should eat the same as a woman my age who's 6'1" and 185. But the truth is that I wasn't burning anywhere near the same number of calories as a female basketball player even if I did weigh the same.

There's also some really, really sad research that suggests that obese people and previously obese people really do burn fewer calories than they "should." It's a chicken-and-egg thing; nobody knows if they burn less because they were obese or if they became obese because they burn less, but there are several studies that put the difference at about 15 %, and that's what seems to be true for me and for a lot of people I know who've lost weight after being obese. So, it comes down to learning to be extremely efficient with your nutritional planning, so you can get the most out of every calorie.

URBANK9 Posts: 894
1/9/13 6:11 P

I have been seeing the same thing, when I look at BMR type calculations they give me around 1500+ and then if you do those calculators where you take the BMR and multiply it, then it's even higher, but at that many calories I can never lose anything at all...

COLLEEN2334 SparkPoints: (1,859)
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1/9/13 4:32 P

I have a question.
If you are to eat 1500 calories a day, and you exercise and burn 300 calories. Do you get to consume back the 300 calories you burn to keep it at 1500?

-CORAL- SparkPoints: (40,297)
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1/9/13 4:05 P

Most people actually underestimate the number of calories they are eating, even when they track (by eyeballing portions, not tracking exact brand of food, etc.) so it may be you are actually eating more like 2000 calories when you think you're eating 1600. Just a thought.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
1/9/13 2:29 P

My range was around 2500-2800, and I lost weight eating that much food, but prefer to eat 1600-2000. I eat low carb, and it is just hard to eat 2800 calories, and not eat extra carbs. One can only eat so much fat, and Vegetables don't add up very fast. Still, I can eat 2300 if I feel hungry, and still lose.

I think SP gets it pretty close. If 2100-2300 is too much, drop it 100 calories, and aim for 2000. See what happens.

CORTNEY-LEE SparkPoints: (67,852)
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1/9/13 1:56 P

every person is different. I think the most important thing is to do what works for you as long as you are doing it safely.

TONKA14 Posts: 4,947
1/9/13 10:28 A

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JP6262AMY Posts: 1,339
1/9/13 9:53 A

Mine says 1200 - 1500!

1/9/13 9:41 A

I have the same issue. The caloric calculators that I have used tells me that I should eat about 2500 calories to maintain weight, and that anything less than 2000 calories is extreme weight loss. There is no way that can be correct. A RD told me that to lose weight I needed to stay at 1500 calories a day.

REYNINGSUNSHINE SparkPoints: (20,387)
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1/9/13 4:05 A

Mhm. Those are just predictors, and many of them are only really good at predicting for certain demographics- some of them are things we don't even think of. Did you know that race effects calorie burn? No kidding! Of the more obvious, the more fat you have, the less you burn. Also, consistently eating too little or "yo-yo"ing your calories (ie, restrict for a week, then binge- like a yo-yo diet) can cause your BMR to lower. Metabolic conditions can also lower it.

While walking is good exercise for those who don't exercise- and it is surely better than nothing- it isn't a huge calorie burner. From the looks of it, you could eat about 2400-2500 calories a day to maintain your weight- which isn't too extreme. Definitely much lower than the 3100+ the calculators online are saying, but it isn't TOO bad. I mean hey, 1600 is still a lot of food (I can't ever eat that much!) if done right, AND you're losing 2 lbs/week. That's nothing to sneeze at! You can lose the weight!

GAMEDUTCHESS SparkPoints: (781)
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1/9/13 1:40 A

Well calorie intake predictors are just programs and you are a unique individual. You need to go by what works for you as long as it is safe and just start adjusting accordingly as you lose wt.

Just to add when I signed up for spark and plugged in all my numbers I was told not to lose wt. If the program could actually see me it would see I have about 10lbs of excess wt that I do indeed need to lose.

Edited by: GAMEDUTCHESS at: 1/9/2013 (01:42)
KRISTEN_SAYS SparkPoints: (81,211)
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1/8/13 10:34 P

1600 seems REALLY low...that's about how much I eat. I'm guessing that's the amount SP gave you?

FLIPPITYFLOP SparkPoints: (654)
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1/8/13 9:48 P

Ya know what bothers me - everytime I fill out a calorie predictor for my size Im always told in order to lose 2 lbs a week I must eat 2100 to 2300 calories. Boy I wish that was true - I only lose 2lbs a week if I maintain about 1600 calories per day and that includes a 30 min walk. It seems many in my family are the same way. Im a big 260 lb man and I do have some muscle. It just isnt fair!!!!! ok I feel better now.

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