Trash them? No they do that to themselves. I will confess to doing my best to debunk the ideology which some assign to them. There are better trainers and more effective trainers available who do not do the degree of self promotion these two engage in. Fitness has become a money making industry today and the marketing is designed to thin peoples wallets under the guise of thinning them.
Many years ago when I was 19 I began my "career" as a trainer by being a physical training instructor at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, S.C. We were taught to scream, shout, belittle and berate the trainees to make themselves push themselves harder. There was a well defined psychological rationale for what we were doing since we were tearing down civilians to recreate them as Marines.Over the years since I have trained and coached under a number of people and the one thing I have learned is that what the Marine Corps had us to do was only effective in that circumstance. It is better to coax people out of their comfort zone than it is to belittle and berate them and attacking their self esteem.
Jillian Michaels is an actress who has decided to develop a persona which set her apart in order to continue getting contracts and to sell her products. Her trademark "Toughest Trainer in America" is just plain hype and marketing, were she to back off from that persona she would not longer be a salable commodity. Her expansion into areas of fitness where she has no training or expertise is all about making money. None of the personal trainers whom I know respect her or assign any credibility to her, or her knowledge, skill and methods.
The best and toughest trainers I have known over the years, at 75 I have accumulated a lot of years,can push you to your limits without screaming or shouting, instead they motivate you to do it for the only valid reason, yourself. My goals as a trainer are teach and motivate you and work myself out of a job. The best trainers I have ever known and are familiar with today share those goals.
Each of us will choose what works or seems to work for us and for me neither one of these individuals resonates as someone whom I would choose as a colleague. Just the thoughts and opinions of an old curmudgeon who is a personal trainer.
Some of you don't like Jillian and although her tactics are unusual, they do work. She does care deep down inside and she does get to the bottom of your problems. I couldn't take her as a trainer, but I love watching her. She is trying to get 'you' out and it takes a special person to deal with her and she only seems to be like that on the show. I have seen some of her videos and she seems fin. The problem in this day and age too we seem to think that anyone who yells at someone is a total *****; people today are coddled, which is one reason why people have a sense of entitlement; parenting has taken a turn for the worse and our society speaks volumes about it.
Anyway, I think they are both good but I just had to respond to the anti-Jillian posts.
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I have DVDs from both. I prefer Bob Harper's ones. They are tougher and longer than Jillian Michaels ones.
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I do neither, but if I did I would choose Bob Harper because on The Biggest Loser Jillian's attitude, yelling and belittling people is SO NEGATIVE. I am a retired teacher and believe me, you "catch more flies with honey than with vinegar," and she's a gallon of vinegar in my mind. Sure, you have to be realistic in getting people to change from being couch potatoes to an active lifestyle, but she certainly isn't my style. If she ordered me out of "her gym," as she did to one of the contestants on BL, I'd go...and gladly, and find a trainer whose psychology matches his/her skill.
Have both and both are very tough. It depends on who you like better. Bob's workouts left me breathless especially his hour long one, but Jillian left me totally sore.
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I ADORE Bob Harper and I'm SO glad someone gave his website on this thread! Thanks CUDA440!
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I love BOTH!!! Jillian's are a little bit easier (TOUGH, but eaiser than bob's) So not sure where you are at. Jillian's Banish fat boost metabolism is 45 min all body weight moves total body workout. The no more trouble zones also 45 min uses light weights, total body workout. Her ripped in 30 has a total of 4 weeks / level workouts to choose from each is about 30 min long uses weights and works total body. Killer buns and thighs only lower body work, has 3 level workouts about 30 min each.
BOB'S are KILLER but I love it!!! They are usually 60 min long, with a short bonus workout on each DVD. If you go to his site, (mytrainerbob.com) they might be on sale for $5 each again. I have 6 of his workouts. These are really intense so not sure if you are up for that.
Usually you can see clips of them at collagevideo.com might help you decide. Beckie
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I own all of their DVDs ~ Jillian ALL THE WAY
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BOB!!!!! his video really motivates me ~ I have the Ultimate Cardio Body ~ $12 bucks at Target and sooooo good!!! The main workout is 1 hour and there is a ticker at the bottom of the screen so you know how long you made it through (I could only get 1/2 way the first time I did it). Then he has a quick 10 minute glute challenge which is nice if I just got home from work and don't have time to do the whole hour workout. You really feel the burn in only 10 minutes!!
The public library can be your best friend when it comes to fitness DVDs. Browse their selection and hcoose a few to try. This is cheap/free, you can add variety, and if you find one you truly love, you can purchase it, then you won't waste your money buying a DVD you end up not liking!
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Well I haven't bought Bob Harper's dvds, but I have 2 of Jillians (shred and no more trouble zones). I hate both! I can do both and its not killing my body, but I hate how mean she is in the videos. I don't want to be yelled at and feel bad in a workout. I will dread each day. Bob appears to be nicer, but I stopped buying DVDs after Jillian.
But then SP came out with Fit Firm and Fired Up and I love it! I use that, and the ones on the SP website for strength. Coach Nicole's voice and support is much better than feeling like Jillian is calling my a worthless maggot. I like using the 10 minute cardio kickboxing videos from SP, too. I do 4 in a row, usually 3-4 days per week. The other days I use my elliptical.
In general, I want to look forward to workouts and Jillian doesn't make me want to workout. I haven't bought any of Bob Harper's DVDs, but the SP ones are cheaper and great. Some are even free!!
While both have many fans here and you will be flooded with replys both have be discredited by many fitness preofessionals as not giving good advice and proper workouts. Both have produced DVDs on exercises routines i.e. kettlebells and yoga for which neither has taken a certification course. Both of their kettlebell workouts show improper form which will lead to injury.
You can use the ones here on Spark or Google for free workouts which you can download. In addition Turbulence Training www.turbulencetraining.com and Mode Athletics www.modeathletics.com produce excellent workout programmes. Turbulence Training is oriented toward bodyweight, free weight and limited equipment workouts while Mode Athletics concentrates on resistance bands. An additional source is Max Workouts www.maxworkouts.com
I have no financial interest in any of these cites however as a personal trainer they produce effective workouts at reasonable costs. I have and use workouts from all three. I would not allow Bob Harper or Jillian Michaels to work in any gym for which I was a manager.
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