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MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,416
7/8/13 2:49 P

I'm going to look up that book because I definitely have that problem. Sometimes I don't even know why I do it. I just do, its like my inner spoiled child demands a cookie and then wants three more. Sometimes I do know why I do it and I do it anyway.

And it is getting worse as I get older.

I looked at that book and I saw another one that may be good. It's called "Stop Eating Your Heart Out" I bought that one and delivered it to my Kindle

Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 7/8/2013 (15:04)
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7/8/13 2:45 P

For me, I haven't given up sugar but I have given up eating low-quality sugars that are present in the checkout aisles and convenience stores. I'm a total sugar snob and I'm not afraid to admit it. If I want something high calorie, I'm going to savor it and enjoy it so it had better be something worth spending time over--not something that I'll shovel in and forget about a minute later. This attitude took me about a year to cultivate and it always starts with the questions: Is this what I really want? and Will this taste as good as I think it will? When I slow down and let my conscious brain be in charge of what I'm eating, I make much better choices.

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7/8/13 2:20 P

Hi, thanks for the advice!

How have you gone about giving up sugar? It's something that I've done for 3 day-stints detox type things but I can't imagine how you do it long term because it feels like it's in everything, y'know? I'd be really interested to hear :)

I also tend to find that it's the being alone that triggers the binges. When I know that I'll be alone for a for days, an evening, or even on the bus home from work I'm like a food-seeking missile and I will attempt to eat as much as I can in that time on my own as I can... I'm sure there's a more subtle trigger behind this, but that's as far as I've gotten so far...

GIPPER1961 Posts: 759
7/8/13 12:51 P

There are a number of good resources on the subject. I have not read the book mentioned earlier but am sure it is helpful and many others as well. To me it is a twofold process. 1. Learning what makes you binge and learning how to cope with those triggers. 2. Getting rid of the products that will absolutely lead to the road to ruin. I have not met a binge eater yet that wasn't triggered by sugar. Enemy number 1 for nearly everyone who binges. The mental as well as the nutritional are equally important.

I have been six weeks without a binge and the final action that got me here was swearing off sugar for good. As difficult as I thought it would be was really not. The cravings went away and having some success allowed me to look at myself as something other than a failure.

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7/8/13 12:19 P

I like that idea; I know that the all or nothing mentality certainly doesn't work for me. Whenever I've been on ultra- restrictive diets I've found myself spinning off into day, sometimes week-long binges because my psychology seems to work that way.

I'll try it next time for sure.

One other thing I've noticed is that if I'm making my way home from work of n evening and I'm tired or stressed I'll go and buy a sandwich and some chocolate, eat them on the bus ride home and then sit down to dinner when I get back. The whole process seems to be heavily tied to being alone- it's not loneliness so much as not wanting anyone else to see that I'm eating 2 meals at a time, or eating really crappy junk...

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
7/8/13 12:02 P

OH! And, one more thing that helped me the first time is I told myself it was just this once. Just this ONE time I wasn't going to give in. Next time, I'd let myself. The all or nothing attitude was a stumbling block for me and the first time was absolutely the hardest.

The reality is that I stop myself more often than not now and "just once" became way more than that.

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
7/8/13 11:51 A

The good news is you can stop waiting. Waiting was a passive response for me, while changing was active. I needed to actively stop myself from bingeing.

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7/8/13 11:16 A

Thanks so much for the replies, ladies!

WadingMoose- I so desperately want that feeling of triumph over this. I keep telling myself that when I'm on my own I'll make different choices, I'm just waiting for the day when that will be true.

Pattie- I'm looking at the blog right now- at the beginners tips! I've never heard of brain over binge so I'm gonna do a little research in to that.

Thank you both for your messages of support- It's nice to know I'm not alone and other people are controlling this- it gives me much hope!

PATTIE441 Posts: 45,286
7/8/13 11:02 A

Hi! Yes, I definitely can relate. I had lost 50 pounds last year, and after that had a lot of life things happened, and I am starting to gain a lot of it back. Binge eating is really taking over me. But a wonderful Spark friend had recommended another book, Brain over Binge, and I have recently subscribed to the newsletter. It really helps. We can do it!! Here is the link. I hope you find it helpful. emoticon emoticon

Edited by: PATTIE441 at: 7/8/2013 (11:03)
WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
7/8/13 11:01 A

Been there! Most recently was more recent than I'd like, to be honest. One piece of advice is to realize that you really are in control. That was hard for me. You feel like you're losing that argument with yourself, but that's really because (for me) when I was going to buy that crappy food and binge, it really was what I wanted to do.

And it was REALLY hard to stop myself from doing it. But I had to own the fact that there really is only me in my head emoticon . And that excuses and "but I couldn't help myself" only went so far when I was in tears afterwards (and feeling rather crappy physically).

The first time I stopped myself from bingeing was incredibly powerful. I didn't give in to that urge, I made a healthy choice - that sucked at the time, but at the same time gave me confidence to do it again. Or to do something like not have lunch at McDonald's and find a healthier option.

I still struggle with it, but I am in control now and I don't even feel the urge to binge as often anymore. Good luck.

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7/8/13 10:55 A

Thanks so much for the book advice- I'll definitely look it up!

I think there are definite residual emotional issues around comfort and anxiety that play a part in the binge eating- and I also think that it's an emotional thing that the binges often occur on Fridays & Saturday night... so that's certainly made me pause and think!

It's crazy because I'm in this really weird place that I am aware that I'm doing it, and I can observe my own thoughts *thinking* about doing it (if that makes sense) and yet I feel almost physically unable to stop myself. On Friday I was walking to the store and in my head saying to myself that I wasn't hungry, there wasn't anything that I particularly wanted to eat and yet I felt that I *had* to eat, just because I was on my own and I could do it in secret without any repercussions from anyone...
And there obviously ARE repercussions- massive weight gain. But I can't seem to match that up in my head. It's so frustrating!

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
7/8/13 10:43 A

A few years ago a book was recommended to me "Overcoming Binge Eating" by Christopher Fairburn. It really helped me understand and start dealing with it.

I often did what you did Friday night and the emotional issues around it were fairly complex. Understanding why you're doing it (for me it was anger and control) can do a lot to help you redirect that energy.

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7/8/13 10:39 A

Hello all,

I'm new here and I briefly introduced myself over at the introduction board.

The main reason that I decided to join here is because I am currently at my highest ever weight (204lbs) and I'm beginning to gain a bit of insight in to my particular eating habits and I realise that I have a serious problem with binge eating.

I remember that I've always binge eaten from around puberty; particularly if I'm stressed, tired and ESPECIALLY when I'm alone.
For instance, I ate really well last week, very careful with a focus on nutrient rich food, around 1500-1600 cals per day... all good. Then on Friday night my partner went away for the weekend and I LET RIP! I overate every night to the point of nausea, ate leftover chocolate and pizza for breakfast... just utterly ridiculous amounts of the most disgusting foods you could imagine. It's like a dirty secret because I always choose the worst foods to eat alone.

I don't have a problem with good, nutritious food; I'm not fussy and I love to eat fruits & vegetables. It's just that I have a real propensity toward sabotaging my efforts, and letting my momentary desires get in the way of my long-term goals.

Does anybody else suffer with this and if so have you found a way to manage this while losing weight and getting healthier and fitter?

Any advice is very much welcome... thanks! K

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