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SHAWNAK3
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9/27/11 2:00 A

I'm not a scientist, but I've found drinking or eating anything with aspartame gives me a pounding headache.



THELUCKIEST018
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8/19/11 8:32 P

I also agree -- moderation is key, whether it is regular sugar or aspartame. I do Yoplait Light which has aspartame as well.. that plus my one Diet Coke a day doesn't worry me. I heard (a long time ago and no longer have the article) that the studies that have shown aspartame to cause cancer in rats gave them the human equivalent of hundreds of cans of Diet Coke a day.. but again, I don't remember the website/article, just that factoid :-)

I would not worry about cutting out your yogurt. It is healthier than a lot of other things you could be eating!!





CHEETARA79
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8/19/11 7:42 A

In my opinion, artificial sweeteners and sugar are fine in moderation. Like another poster, I prefer to buy plain yogurt and add fruit or honey for sweetness. Pre-sweetened yogurt is now too sweet for me. My palate has changed so I can enjoy stuff that's less sweet.



CANRUNNER
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8/19/11 4:29 A

I am in Spain and know where to get black market stevia!

I have heard that the reason it won't get eu approval is they don't want to spend the money testing it, but now you say it's owned by coca-cola I doubt that's true. I am sure sooner or later it will be sold here.



DANNIELLEMARIE
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8/18/11 2:52 P

None of those articles give any real reason why stevia would be unsafe...except for one study done in Europe that they said was so mishandled it would make water appear mutagenic.

Stevia is used in Japan (not banned). I buy stevia-sweetened Japanese products at an international grocery store. It's also been used for a long time in other countries (Canada comes to mind off the top of my head).

But I agree that everyone should research the options that are available if you choose to use sweeteners. Make informed decisions. The way you rank sweeteners may be different than the way I rank them...you may choose to use sweeteners I avoid and vice versa. And that's fine. :) It's just always a good idea to make a conscious choice about what goes into your body.

Edited by: DANNIELLEMARIE at: 8/18/2011 (15:02)


LAETU5
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8/18/11 2:42 P



REDSHOES2011
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8/18/11 2:40 P

www.webefit.com/articles_100_199/article_1
12_artsweet01.html


UPDATE!

Everything changed in December 2008. The FDA has now given a "no objection" approval to Truvia and PurVia, sweeteners wholly-derived from the Stevia plant. Did the companies behind these Stevia products finally spend millions conducting safety tests?

Nope. They simply had Stevia reclassified as GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe). Once it was GRAS, they could sell it as a sweetener and add it to food and drink without any safety testing at all. Notice the box of SweetLeaf now says "Sweetener."

Who's behind this sudden change? Truvia was developed by Cargill and The Coca-Cola Company. PureVia was developed by PepsiCo and the Whole Earth Sweetener Company, a subsidiary of Merisant.

It seems nobody's objecting now that the "soft drink money" is behind it.

Stevia can now be marketed as an artificial sweetener.

Politicians are small fish- freeze out your voting money- you don't get in next election.. Love your friends, keep your enermies closer lol.. FOOD INC raised alot of questions about how the food industry is organised in the US.. Money still talks louder than peoples health..

Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 8/18/2011 (14:46)


LOCUTUS2999
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8/18/11 2:36 P

Interesting, that says they are not allowed... but it doesn't really say why?



REDSHOES2011
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8/18/11 2:35 P

www.food.gov.uk/foodindustry/imports/banne
d_restricted/stevioside




Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 8/18/2011 (14:40)


LOCUTUS2999
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8/18/11 2:25 P

Why would Stevia be banned?



REDSHOES2011
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8/18/11 2:24 P

Stevia is actually banned in Japan and Europe by EU covers many countries..

Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 8/18/2011 (14:24)


DANNIELLEMARIE
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8/18/11 2:12 P

Personally I'm not a fan of aspartame (or acesulfame K) and I do my best to avoid them. When I stopped drinking diet soda all day long I also stopped getting headaches nearly every day. Of course I have no proof that the aspartame in my soda caused my headaches but the fact that they stopped when I stopped drinking diet soda convinced me that I was better off without the stuff.

Now I have soda very infrequently. When I do have diet soda I get one that is sweetened with stevia. I love orange Zevia! And the price of it definitely keeps me from over-indulgling lol!

Now yogurt... I find I really prefer getting the big tub of plain Fage 0% and adding my own stuff to it. I like to add my own fruit to it...and I sweeten it with the sweeteners I prefer...to the degree I prefer. It's also cheaper to buy a big container. And having plain Greek yogurt in the fridge is so handy...it can be subbed for mayo or sour cream or used for moisture in recipes for baked goods in addition to being paired with fruit.



REDSHOES2011
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8/18/11 1:57 P

Clean eat and remove 1000 additives to our food, the body can better take care of us using sweetner in moderation..

How about getting the lifestyle running than worry about the small things dept.. Some people are obsessive about tiny details, and never carry off the main thing keeping it running long haul.. Also make no mistake natural is not better than artifical eating natural sugars can also raise cholestrol as well as spike blood sugar..

But the old sweetners don't spike the blood sugar or give destructive diarea that hurts natural bowl movement like the new types..



Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 8/18/2011 (14:10)


LOCUTUS2999
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8/18/11 12:25 P

Sorry Bella, since you didn't cite any studies your comment sounded to me like you just had a personal belief, not actually based on any actual outside evidence, which is why I asked jokingly if you were a scientist. (which is why I had the smiley!) I think the OP's question has been answered about as well as it can be.



LAETU5
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8/18/11 11:54 A

I figure that I don't have to use aspartame and would rather avoid it than risk finding out 30 years from now that the link to cancer is certain and the damage can't be undone.

On the comment about it only being dangerous when heated....it would get heated up in the body.

There are also new studies that indicate that using any artificial sweetener causes at least some people's body's to respond as if it has taken in sugar so it may not matter if someone chooses artificial over real anyway. I think it's going to take more testing to find out if this is an effect on only some people or if it is across the board and some are just eating better in other parts of their diets to compensate.



BELLAARADIA
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8/18/11 11:41 A

I don't do sugar, real or fake..but thank you.

It's interesting how you're speaking of me being defensive. Was I not just questioned and called out on my own personal belief? There's a reason I wrote that before I said what I did..I never said I was a scientist, and I was NOT quoting any research studies whatsoever! So please, before you call me out for being defensive and condescending, re read the thread.

I was simply offering my opinion on aspartame and a couple people couldn't handle it.

To the OP - Sorry to hi jack your thread..I didn't mean to start a debate, but I do stand behind my words and don't take lightly to random people casting judgement on me.

I'm done posting under this topic.





LOCUTUS2999
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8/18/11 10:33 A

Wow Bella. No need to be so defensive. I am not telling you that you should consume "fake sugar", eat all the real sugar you want. :)



JLSPARKLES
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8/18/11 9:54 A

BOOKRUNNER- thank you for the tidbit on blueberries! I didn't know that...may have to give that a try. Thank you for the info!


Thank you to everyone else for your feeback- I didn't intend to start a debate but lots of useful info, opinions, etc. :)



AMBER2581
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8/18/11 9:54 A

I am very prone to migraines and aspartme is a huge trigger to me. I avoid it like the plague. One thing I have found with avoiding aspartme is that I constantly have to watch the ingrediant lists even if it is something I have boughten before. I used a brand of yogurt for a long time and then suddenly started getting headaches. After a few days I just happened to look at the list of ingrediants and they had switched from sugar to aspartme. So now I make sure to look at the ingrediant list for all prepackeged foods I buy.



BOOKRUNNER
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8/18/11 3:13 A

There is also this:
http://organichealthadviser.com/archives
/aspartame-dangers
and this
http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCause
s/OtherCarcinogens/AtHome/aspartame



BOOKRUNNER
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8/18/11 3:08 A

I asked my doctor about aspartame and she said that it is linked with cancer but when it becomes dangerous is when it had been exposed to warmer temperatures. So diet coke may be cold when you buy it in the store but it has most likely been stored in warmer conditions. Your yogurt will certainly have been consistently kept cooled. I always err on the side of caution. I've gotten into heating up fresh blueberries b/c they make a natural compote and adding this or honey to organic fat-free yogurt. Good luck!



CANRUNNER
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8/18/11 2:30 A

Wow Bella, way to come off super condescending. For a someone who is smarter than that you make yourself sound like an idiot.

For the record I try to avoid aspartame, as well as artificial colorants and flavoring, but that's me. Unident is right, these anti-aspartame sites are just fear mongering. If you like your yogurt I wouldn't worry about the small amount of aspartame it contains. If you want to change it up, try some of the brands mentioned here, maybe you will find something you like better. Like someone else mentioned, you're worse off being fat than consuming sugar substitutes.

One thing that bothers me if the fanatical approach people take here. People take is as a personal insult if someone disagrees with them. I couldn't care less if you are pro/anti aspartame, a low carber, eating paleo, etc. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. If someone has a question I wish people would respond politely. There are many ways to express your beliefs without acting superior.



UNIDENT
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8/18/11 2:24 A

Oh, and safe daily limit of aspartame intake comes from the studies that have shown that it has no negative side effects at doses lower than the equivalent of 2,000 cans of diet coke a day - yes, two thousand!

If you're having 2-3 cokes a day, the aspartame is really not going to harm you.

Oh, and if you think ANY dose is bad (and that natural = good), I hope you stay the heck away from those poisonous arsenic-carrying almonds!



UNIDENT
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8/18/11 1:45 A

Something needn't be good for you, or even healthy, to be a good choice.

Is a Big Mac good for you, or healthy? Hell no. I don't think anyone would argue.

But is one Big Mac a better choice than two Big Macs, large fries, and a giant cup of sugared soda? Heck YEAH.

Obviously the ideal choice is to skip the maccas altogether and have a healthy meal. Not everybody can always make the most ideal and healthy choice at every point in every day for their entire lives.

For the rest of us, there's balance. Making "better" choices.

One Big Mac is "better" than a double combo. Diet soft drink with aspartame is "better" than sugared soda.

We don't have to be perfect. Just a series of "better" choices which, adding up together of a lifetime of "better" choices, will lead to a healthier me! :)



BELLAARADIA
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8/18/11 1:15 A

haha...I won't even go there. You continue to consume your tobacco, fake sugar, processed foods, gmos, nitrates and msg..

I'm smarter than that..and no you don't have to be a scientist to research, think and become mentally empowered with information..You are able to process ideas and come to your own conclusions on things. I don't let the FDA or society guide me or my family on how and what we should eat..that's the sheep's way of living..not mine.



Edited by: BELLAARADIA at: 8/18/2011 (01:18)


LOCUTUS2999
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8/17/11 11:49 P

You have a personal belief that it causes abnormal cells? Are you a scientist? :) Just because something isn't good for you, it doesn't mean it is bad for you. It could be inert. I use it right now because I see no evidence that it is worse for me than being fat. At some point I will phase it out, along with my smoking... one step at a time though.



GUINEAPIGMOM
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8/17/11 11:24 P

We probably shouldn't eat fake food but I do it. The problem with eating yogurt without fake sugar in it is that, unless it's plain unflavored yogurt, which is gross IMO, it has a TON of sugar in it. Organic yogurts, like Stonyfield, are notorious for having a ton of sugar in them. So sometimes it comes down to the choice between fake sugar no calories vs real sugar with a significant amount of calories. It's a choice you're going to have to make. If you opt for yogurt with real sugar you'll just have to eat less of something else to compensate for it.

Bottom line: Do whatever makes you feel best!



BELLAARADIA
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8/17/11 11:08 P

I never said it was..but thanks for pointing out the obvious..lol
But it CAN'T be good for you, or healthy for you either, right? It's funny the people who are in denial of their own addictions...you are your own worst enemy.

Edited by: BELLAARADIA at: 8/17/2011 (23:10)


OPUSEVA
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8/17/11 5:09 P

"personal belief" is NOT the same as scientific fact



BELLAARADIA
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8/17/11 4:08 P

I have a personal belief that it causes abnormal cells which can lead to cancer. If it's not natural, and you don't NEED it, why risk it?? ;)



UNIDENT
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8/17/11 3:46 P

See? Scarelore.

Hit the root url there. Lovethetruth.com. Yeah, THAT totally looks like a really reliable and scientific source of real factual information ... not.

Always consider sources whenever researching any claim.



BELLAARADIA
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8/17/11 3:46 P

I'm going to have to agree with KYLIEDANI on this one! and yes, I'd rather have NO sugar, which I do almost 100% of the time ;)



KYLIEDANI
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8/17/11 3:34 P

UNIDENT is wrong - there is a plethora of scientific evidence that supports and proves the fact that aspartame is a POISON and destroys your body. Read here for more info: http://www.lovethetruth.com/truth_about_as
partame.htm

Greek yogurt is the way to go!



UNIDENT
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8/17/11 3:21 P

Actually, ALL of the negative information on aspartame is nothing more than scarelore and anecdotal stories. There is absolutely zero evidence at all that is unsafe even in diet soft drinks. Every single reputable health information source (that isn't set up specifically to scare people about aspartame) reports that it's safe.

Including Sparkpeople.com - www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=289


If you choose not to have it, that's your choice. But do make an informed choice. There is no evidence that aspartame (or any other sweeteners) have any negative effect on people at all.



BELLAARADIA
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8/17/11 1:43 P

I would switch to a brand that does not have fake sugars. I use Costco's Kirkland brand, they are natural and so delicious!



JLSPARKLES
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8/17/11 1:38 P

Thanks for the feedback!



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8/17/11 1:36 P

A random result from Google produced this tidbit:

"A twelve ounce can of soda pop contains 225 milligrams of Aspartame; an eight ounce cup of yogurt contains 80 milligrams of it, and one packet of the artificial sweetener has 37 milligrams of Aspartame in it."

-- haven't verified whether this is true or not.



LAETU5
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8/17/11 1:01 P

I think I've seen light yogurts that use splenda instead. Just because something is a greek yogurt doesn't mean it won't have artificial sweeteners, so you'd still have to look at the package.

I just looked at a package of my husband's walmart yogurt and it just has sugar added; the difference is it isn't a "light" version. So I'd suggest just switching to a real fruit sugar sweetened yogurt or get plain yogurt and add in your own fruit.

I like the chobani fruit greek yogurts for pre-added fruit. However I've started buying Dannon greek and just dump in frozen fruit or berries with a bit of brown sugar if needed.



JLSPARKLES
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8/17/11 12:47 P

I have read all of the dangers associated with drinking diet soda due to aspartame. I have been eating Light and Fit yogurt for months now and just realized that it containes aspartame as well.
Does anyone know if it is a comparabale amount to that of Diet Soda? I am wondering if I should just go completely Greek on the yogurt. I don't drink soda, diet nor regular, so that isn't a problem. I just cannot imagine giving up my yogurt. I love it!



 
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