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ARMSPORTS Posts: 1,310
8/11/10 11:54 A

I loved that! Not saying I want to see baseball players fighting all the time or anything like that. But it was good to see some intensity on the field for a change. This might turn into one of baseball's best rivalries.

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8/11/10 11:22 A

Well well well... after yesterday's Cards Reds game, this topic is a little different. Phillips comes out and says he "hates the Cardinals more than the Cubs" and bunch of other stuff... leads to a bench clearing brawl during the next days game and both managers got tossed. Today's game should be interesting!

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8/5/10 11:00 A

KJ: You nailed that on the head! Hockey is still that way, man those guys try to take each other out with every check. Even the USHL teams go at and those kids are 16-18. You know their is going to be at least 2-3 fights EVERY time Lincoln and Omaha face off. I love the fact that hockey lets the players settle things on the ice. You take your beating, or dish one out, sit in the box for a bit and then its good to go.

DLCJ21 Posts: 1,721
8/2/10 3:15 P

Baseball has been that way for as long as I can remember. You only see the benches clear when someone is purposely trying to hurt someone. Other than that, players are laughing and talking to each other before, during, and after the game. Next time you go to a game, watch the first baseman talk to a player that just got a could be trash talk, but I've even seen them laugh at each other. That goes back to when I was a kid at the games.

I think the media encourages it as well, it's big news when a player does not shake a person's hand after the game.

8/2/10 1:34 P

Wrong sport, brother, wrong sport.

HOCKEY! Now there's TRUE hatred there and no team is exempt including those Red "OCTO" Wings!

My favorite rivalry in hockey has got to be The Philadelphia Flyers and the Pittsburgh Penguins.

ARMSPORTS Posts: 1,310
8/2/10 11:32 A

They did a real number on my Tigers when they were down there. Looks like the final nail is being put in our coffin as we speak...

Good luck beating those Yanks!

STEVES6 Posts: 2,501
8/2/10 11:11 A

Hello, I watched theRays beat the Yanks. I live in SW Florida. emoticon

ARMSPORTS Posts: 1,310
8/2/10 9:24 A

Yeah, I liked Pete Rose and think he should be in the Hall but that was totally unnecessary. Ended the career of Ray Fosse, a promising young catcher as I recall.

WILKERSONR Posts: 5,148
8/1/10 5:16 P

Interesting topic, over the years I have pretty much given up on watching any pro sports including Indy and NASCAR. Mostly because of the same reason.

When I played football and baseball we where taught to be good sportsman, however we were also taught the opposing team in the enemy. Here again, it the problem we as consumers, are paying for the tickets, hats, and t shirts, making the players and owners even more money. Next time after the game or race as these guys are chatting and laughing just think about are they laughing at us or how big their next check is going to be.

Sorry but one correction, the collision at home plate was Rose and Fosse. 1970 All Star game in Cincinnati at the Riverfront Stadium. We we sitting to the right of home plate.

Edited by: WILKERSONR at: 8/1/2010 (17:17)
BLUEANDGOLD57 Posts: 1,081
8/1/10 3:02 P

It does seem like the fans have a far more intese involvement than the players do. The Black Hole in Oakland, The Dog Pound in Cleveland. The teams suck, but the fans are more than willing to fight it out in the stands.

INTHEWORKS1 Posts: 981
7/29/10 1:11 A

I agree with you. It is so funny that we fans care more about wins and losses than the players do. I am a Cards fan and I hear stories about how Bob Gibson would not talk to opposing players...even in all star games.

Now you see a first baseman talking to a guy who in on base with a big hit. Even in the playoffs. Little leaguers don't even do that.

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7/22/10 9:23 A

Splitting up of the divisions, interleague play and free agency have definitely made a difference. Also, back in the day before salaries were so large everyone tried their hardest every game to try to make it to the World Series to get that bonus.

Now if you on the Pirates, Royals or another small market team you don't really care because you're making a ton of loot anyway. That's all fine and well that they get paid what they do, but I really wish baseball would take some notes from the NFL and put in a cap.

In the NFL almost every team has a serious shot at winning the championship because the teams are more even. Can you imagine the Royals, Pirates or Mariners making it to the world series? Those guys will NEVER make it there again unless a cap is installed.

That extra competitiveness would help grow the sport I think.

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7/21/10 4:57 P

I have to agree growing up watching baseball and football in the early 80s.The opposing teams were so serious they were not there for a hugfest but to win at any cost.Nowdays it seems everyone has chaged.That is why in football or baseball I usually watch the play-offs because those those greedy guys know they got a chance to make some big money if they win.

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7/21/10 3:17 P

Even when there were rivalries(Dodgers vs. Giants) Roseboro vs. Marichal I don't remember ANYONE ever getting really hurt. The benches emptying & the wrestling on the mound NEVER turned up a hurt player.

Even Rose & Yeager at the plate never hurt for very long.

Just my take on things...

MANDMDAD Posts: 550
7/21/10 1:51 P

I agree. I think it is because of free agency and the number of trades, players no longer have that strong sense of team....and as a result rivalries die.

The splitting of conferences into 3 divisions instead of two, and interleague play also take away from the rivalries.

ARMSPORTS Posts: 1,310
7/21/10 11:30 A

As I was watching my favorite baseball team (Detroit Tigers) lose their seventh straight game last night a thought occurred to me. Does it seem like the players are a lot friendlier with the opposing teams players these days? I can remember growing up watching sports and it seemed like there was a lot less "fraternizing" taking place on the field/court. After the game, I have no problem with them congratulating, talking, even hanging out with opposing players. But on the field, the last thing I want to see aplayer doing is yucking it up with the opposition when they are getting their butts kicked 8-0 (did you hear that Johnny Damon?)

Am I just being a hard ass or have things changed that much?

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