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MEREDITHAH85 Posts: 26
12/28/13 12:10 P

I was told by my doctor the diet was low carb and high protien. It is 100-150g of carbs, 100+ g of protien, 1200-1500 calories.

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12/28/13 10:50 A

Russell is correct.....

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12/27/13 9:51 P

"But in dieting, I try to create a deficit in calories, leading to weight loss. I won't be doing that for the rest of my life, so how is this something I would continue?

Or do you mean I can't expect to go from a burgers and fries diet to salads then back to burgers and fries?"

It's more like why would you. Many if not most people who lose weight successfully here don't change their way of eating drastically when they do it. (Regular meals, anyway. Snack foods tend to be greatly reduced, for obvious reasons.) Someone who's eating a lot of burgers and fries and no salads might find it a good idea to eat more salads (or other vegetables, if preferred), both because they want to be healthy and salads are healthy, but also because vegetables are good bang for your calorie buck. Burgers and fries might be reduced in quantity and frequency (because they can be high calorie; and the fries especially lack nutrition and stomach-filling qualities proportionate to their calories), but the person would still eat them.

You want a style of eating and more so, a way of living, that you're comfortable with keeping up for the rest of your life, because that's what's going to get you to your goal and keep you there, not a diet that you can't stick to. When you reach maintenance you will increase your calories again (and it will feel like a lot!) but from the perspective of where you're standing now it's hardly any difference. A little more peanut butter on your sandwich, an extra piece of fruit, a handful of nuts when you're feeling peckish before dinner instead of waiting, an extra spoonful of casserole at dinner -- pow, you're there.

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12/27/13 9:35 P

Unless you have a very good reason not to, you should design your diet around your lifestyle and not the other way around. If you enjoy losing weight with lots of good whole foods then do that. It sounds like you were eating lots of produce before (which is great for just about everybody) and can't do that now (probably not good). Even most plans considered low-carb don't restrict vegetables all that much.

Note that all of this goes out the window if you have a specific medical reason to be on a very restricted diet. But if you don't, then by all means open it up and make your healthy lifestyle work for you. This will probably entail a lot of picking and choosing as to what's really valuable to you in your social life and how and what you eat when you go out (and how often); probably other choices as well in order to get within the required calorie range and stay there. But that's not the same thing as trying to enforce a style of eating that is simply not working for you. Forget any medical justification for why low-carb might work better -- that's only if you can stick to it! 7 days a week of a hypothetically less-effective weight loss plan is probably going to lose you a lot more weight than 2 days a week or a more-effective on, you know?

Do what you have to do and get your calories in range in a way so you can stay there. That's the most important thing.

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12/27/13 6:14 P

What do you mean by low carb? How many G/day is low carb in your eyes?

What was your starting weight and what is your goal?

I eat a moderate-carb diet (around 100 G/day) and try to get most of my carbs from whole grains, veggies, dairy and minimal fruit. I go out a lot and don't find that this is a big problem. What kinds of going out are you doing and what are the obstacles? Alcohol? Apps? Food?

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12/27/13 1:48 P

I agree with what Russel said.

There are so many "diets" or "eating Lifestyles" out there one plan works for everyone. You need to find one that works for you, and your body's needs and your lifestyle.

I took time and researched as many as I could. Did that plan even sound like something I could do? Did it make sense? Would it deprive me of something I ate almost daily and never gained weight from? Did it include food groups I liked, or food groups I didn't like? Would the foods allowed be easy to obtain and not take a huge bite out of my budget? Would preparing those foods cause an inconvenience to me, or would they be a snap?

In the end, I ended up taking a little from here, a little from there, and found what worked for me; my mind, my body, and my lifestyle. It's working for me, but might not work for you.

Knowledge is power.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 65,540
12/27/13 12:15 P

I agree with the previous posters that you'll want to develop a style of eating you can live with for the rest of your life. That doesn't necessarily mean you'll eat the same number of calories forever (you'll slowly add more calories back in as you reach maintenance), but it does mean you'll eat the same basic kinds of foods. Changing your lifestyle means you're not going on and off of a "diet".

I disagree that you have to eat low carb because you carry fat in your midsection. That's a common trouble spot for most women, but you can still eat a balanced diet and lose weight from that area.

My suggestion would be to track your food on SparkPeople and try to stay in the calorie and nutrient ranges our program recommends. Hopefully you'll find you can lose weight by eating this way, and also maintain that style of eating long-term.

Hope that helps,

Coach Jen

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
12/27/13 11:45 A

First of all. Low carb is not HIGH protein.. it is high fat. Fat satiates.. that means makes you full. No hunger, so carbs are not a temptation.

Low carb is eaten to keep glucose low, and prevent Insulin releases. Excess protein can be converted to glucose, so extra protein will ruin the diet. You want to eat 20-25% protein, which isn't high. Then pick a level of carbs, say 60 grams, which is 16 % of 1500 calories. The rest is fat. So if you have 24% protein, and 16 % carbs ( mostly vegetables ), then that leaves 60 % fat, from nuts, cheeses, meat, fish, fowl, eggs, and butter/oil. I think 60 % fat qualifies as HIGH fat.

Paleo is not a low-no carb diet. There is no zero carb diet. It doesn't exist. Paleo is a low carb diet, and if you plan to do low carb, first you should read up on it, and find out how to do it correctly. It eliminates certain carbs, some that are quite low carb, so the total number of carbs doesn't mean you are doing the diet correctly.

Atkins Induction is the lowest at 20 NET carbs..for just 2 weeks. That does not count fiber, so 30 grams a day is possible, and you start adding carbs back in. You should be eating almost all your carbs from nutrient dense vegetables, and avoiding SF foods, and low carb products, such as bars, and shakes. Eat real food.

Then you start adding back carbs, testing to see if they cause you to gain weight, or overeat. There are many low carbers who are at 100-120 carbs a day on the SMART CARBING Sparkteam. You progress up the carb ladder, eating different forms of carbs, as well as more of them, over time. This is a slow process, because you do not wish to go back to having cravings. Low carb has given you control of your appetite, and most people do not want to give it up.

Still, over time, you will add back in carbs, which is why it is able to be followed for the rest of your life. Some do this with one diet, and other switch from very low carb Atkins, to a more moderate Paleo, to a barely low carb South Beach diet. Still others may go all the way to a low glycemic diet that just focuses on quality of carbs, and not so much the quantity.

Clear up what low carb actually is, and what you hope to achieve from it, and decide whether it is something that you would actually like to do, and can stick to. If not, you might even try the reverse.. see if low glycemic carb diet helps, and if not, try South Beach, slowly dropping carbs to see if it makes a difference. You'll know it is working, when you no longer have cravings.

you may decide to not do low carb at all. It isn't for everyone. Lots of people think it is high protein, which sounds okay to them. Fat is bad, which is why no one likes to say low carb = high fat. Much harder sell. I eat about 12 % carbs ( 50-70 g a day ), about 23 % protein, and 65 % fat. I don't eat skin, or fatty red meat. Mostly b/s chicken thighs, macadamia nuts, cheese, butter/oil, and eggs. Plus 10 servings of fruit/veggies, which no one really mentions. Low carb is best if you eat a lot of veggies. Even on Induction, he recommends 3 cups. Most long term low carbers eat quite a lot of veggies. Much more than the average diet.

You can check out my menu on my Sparkpage. Understand that I am diabetic, and eat pretty low carb, even 4.5 years after starting. You may want to ask for advice in the SMART CARBING team, who eat more carbs, and their way of eating may be more acceptable to you.

Take the time to explore every option, and then when you actually have a plan that you like the food of, and think it is able to be followed for years to come, only then start the diet. There are many healthy diets, and low carb is only one.

I hope that you find success, whatever plan you decide on doing. emoticon

Edited by: RUSSELL_40 at: 12/27/2013 (11:46)
MEREDITHAH85 Posts: 26
12/27/13 11:16 A

But in dieting, I try to create a deficit in calories, leading to weight loss. I won't be doing that for the rest of my life, so how is this something I would continue?

Or do you mean I can't expect to go from a burgers and fries diet to salads then back to burgers and fries?

Edited by: MEREDITHAH85 at: 12/27/2013 (11:22)
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12/27/13 11:16 A

i tried paleo, which is a low-no carb diet, i only tried it for 2 weeks at most, i had no energy, my calories were always under 1000 and i was eating like 5 times a day, i wnt from 2 hour work outs to not being able to do 20 mins, so i personally would suggest that low carb isnt the best option for you, seeing as you stated that your results have been slow. Dont give up, stay strong, and remember that even if the weight doesnt come off, you are still a beautiful and lovely person, so dont let it bring you down :)

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12/27/13 11:07 A

Low carb (Atkins) gave me kidney stones, so I quit it.

You have to look at this as a lifestyle change, not a diet. Unless you are going to eat low carb for the rest of your life it won't work for you. Carbs are not bad and our body needs them. You may need to get with a new doctor or nutritionist to help get you back on track.

MEREDITHAH85 Posts: 26
12/27/13 11:02 A

I'm concerned the low card/high protien diet isn't working for me. Before starting that diet, I lost 30 pounds in 3 months on my own. Part of it was going off steriods, which I was on for asthma, that was about 10 pounds but the rest was my effort. I then started the diet through a Bariatric medical program. I lost 10 pounds in the 4 months I was in the program, I ended up quitting when the doctor didn't want my input in my diet. I've since tried to continue with the diet, but it's been rough. Over the next 4 months I lost 2 more pounds, leading to a total of 12 pounds lost, which I keep gaining and losing.

I know why I've lost so little and struggle to keep it off. I am having difficulty with low carb. I will do okay for a few days then real life kicks in and I have no idea what to do. Carbs are everywhere! I moved to a new town and I am trying to meet people, but it's so hard to go out and meet people when I can't have carbs. Additionally low carb makes me tired, so I don't want to exercise.

I am obese and store most of my fat in the belly region. So scientifically low carb is the best diet for me.

Here's my question, should I stick with low carb? How? Can I just do high protien with lots of whole grains and produce, which is how I always lost weight before?

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