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PATJOONWW SparkPoints: (44,675)
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6/20/13 4:22 P

Also, you want to watch even getting a prescription for Metformin. I went to the doctor, but only got to see the nurse practicioner, told her I had been to boot camp for a month, I was just about perfect on my eating and that I had only lost 7 pounds. She prescribed Metformin to me, I did buy get the prescription filled but never took it. I went to the Dr. a few days later and we were discussing her putting me on it, She was upset, told me not to take it. This was in 2010.

Come the problem - I had to get new insurance in Sept of 2012, when the companies I was looking at saw that I was taking Metformin they were not going to insure me or they were going to raise my rates as I have Diabetes! No I don't, I have never had diabetes. It took alot of back and forth from me, and my Dr. to get them to believe. I also told the Dr. office to get that off my charts that she was wrong in giving me a Metformin prescription. I am not diabetic and I didn't want it in my charts that I was on that drug. I love my Dr., but I will never again see the Nurse

COSMOANGEL SparkPoints: (7,920)
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6/20/13 12:53 P

The Dr. Bernstein in the link in www.drbdiet.com, is a "jerk". He is in Canada and there are all sorts of horror stories about him berating clients and charging thousands of dollars. A lot of people lose drastic amounts of weight but it is usually gained back quickly. I'm in the Hamilton Ontario area and I've done a lot of research of various weight loss programs and also talked to my family doctor on what are the most effective programs. That's how I found out about the frequency of weight gain after stopping his program. I ended up at the Wharton Clinic. It has save my life!!!! Its all covered by OHIP, there is a lot of medical testing an monitoring, but basically you do the work, tracking what you eat and maintaining nutritional targets, based on calculations of your "real" basil metabolic rate. When you start you go for a calorimetric test where they do the caliper thing and you breath into this machine for 15 minutes. They use that to come up with your BMR and from there you develop your eating plan. Once a month or so you go in and have a small group educational session, you then meet with a bariatric educator, and the doctor sees you. All the Dr.s are absolutely the most considerate, supportive and encouraging. Some of them are quite young (at least they seem to me, lol) and you can tell they are right on the edge of emerging science about obesity and weight loss. I think they are Internal Medicine Specialists. It's so refreshing to see young people commit to this area of medicine because they see a need for it not just to make $$$$ selling supplements and stuff. With respect to the ongoing monitoring, they do your blood work regularly , they partner with cardiologist to do stress tests about every six months and they also remeasure your BMR regularly also. After the first three months the test showed a decrease to BMR and muscle mass. They got right on me about strength/resistance training and the next time I had it measured it showed an increase in my BMR, and muscle mass despite losing 30 pounds. With out this info I would still be struggling to lose weight. I've heard bad feedback about the Wharton Clinic also but I think its because they really hold you accountable to your program. I encourage anyone who is in the Golden Horseshoe area to check it out.

FP4HLOSER Posts: 968
6/20/13 8:59 A

Well..yes. But he is a diabetic doctor, NOT a weight loss doctor. If you are not diabetic you shouldn't be on his diet in the first place. As for Metformin you can only get it through a prescription so would have to be under a doctor's care. I also do not understand where the poster gets the idea he recommends it to all obese people. The excerpt from his book I read says he only prescribes it and other diabetic meds when the patient has not been able to bring down their blood glucose with diet and exercise. I would say she got the wrong idea somewhere along the line.

Edited by: FP4HLOSER at: 6/20/2013 (09:38)
JDMAKEIT2HOT Posts: 8,455
6/20/13 8:40 A

Thanks fp4hloser, I didn't realize that!

I looked up the correct guy.

Basically just a low carb diet. 6g breakfast, 12g lunch, 12g dinner. Workout for obese people and a strict diet.

Metformin when needed. (This I still don't agree with unless you're a diabetic)






FP4HLOSER Posts: 968
6/19/13 10:56 A

Ahhhh---you would think I would learn to read EVERYTHING before posting by now. First off---your link is to Dr, STANLEY Bernstein ---the poster on your blog is talking about Dr. RICHARD Bernstein. Two completely different people and completely different diets! She even mentioned his name twice in her post. Dr. Richard Bernstein is a leading authority on very low carb diet for diabetics. Look up Dr. Richard Bernstein for better info. Metformin is NOT the basis for his diet plan.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_K._Bernstein


Edited by: FP4HLOSER at: 6/19/2013 (10:58)
WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,044
6/19/13 10:20 A

I understand off-label usage of prescription meds, but it concerns me when the basis of an entire "diet" is the promotion of the use of an off label prescription med. That seems like something best determined by a doctor familiar with your medical history rather than someone selling a quick fix diet.

FP4HLOSER Posts: 968
6/19/13 10:04 A

Metformin is mainly used for type 2 diabetes. It is also used for PCOS and weight loss. It is prescription only and should only be used under a doctor's care. If this doctor prescribes it for weight loss then he is really not doing anything out of line legally. I am a type 2 diabetic and it doesn't help me that's for sure! LOL! I still must watch my diet and exercise to lose weight. Metformin also causes some gastric distress in some people so not everyone can take it.

SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 1,869
6/19/13 9:43 A

Not everyone will lose weight taking metformin because if you eat high glycemic foods they increase your blood glucose level, so then metformin won't be effective for weight loss.

Mayo Clinic has discovered that Metformin may even help some cancer patients.....and yes, some doctors are using metformin for weight loss. Controversial, however maybe people with family history of diabetes prompts this approach. Check with your doctor about all your medications...and please consult a medical professional for individual advice.
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Edited by: SUNSHINE6442 at: 6/19/2013 (09:46)
BLBST36 Posts: 349
6/19/13 9:23 A

I take Metformin for an off label use (prescribed by a doctor). In my case, it initially did help with weight loss, but eventually, because I wasn't eating right, it came right back. It is not a medicine you want to use exclusively for weight loss or without a doctor's guidance. I go for blood work every six months because of this and other medicines I am on.

It is not a miracle pill (it is a pill, not an injection like some diabetes meds). It shouldn't be taken without a doctor. It can be dangerous.

JDMAKEIT2HOT Posts: 8,455
6/19/13 9:01 A

My mom is type 2 and if didnt help her lose weight either... .my boyfriend type 1 will lose weight fast if he doesnt control his.

AMANDANCES Posts: 1,983
6/19/13 9:00 A

It's NOT safe, and it's NOT healthy! Injecting yourself with insulin and this kind of stuff was an old 70s fad, and it leads to all kinds of health problems.



MSWAN112 SparkPoints: (2,172)
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6/19/13 8:54 A

yikes.....metformin is a diabetes medication, I can't imagine taking something that would mess with my blood sugar. I naturally am hypoglycemic and it has never helped me with weight loss. My father who is diabetic losses weight when his blood sugar is high.

JDMAKEIT2HOT Posts: 8,455
6/19/13 8:41 A

www.drbdiet.com/

I wrote a blog yesterday about how I am getting back to eating lower calories and titled it "I"M STARVING".

One person commented about the buy in the above link. I went to his website, seems like its just trying to sell you prepackaged meals.

Anyways in the comment the person was telling me how this doctor is great, and that he has over weight people use metaformin(SP?) to help them lose weight.


***THAT is the part I want your thoughts on! ***


I personally would not try it, I am overweight, but even when I weighted 253 my sugars have been normal. If I had a day where my sugar was high it would read 89.



Edited by: JDMAKEIT2HOT at: 6/19/2013 (08:42)
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