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DIDS70 Posts: 5,070
12/18/12 3:44 P

I did Juice RX a few years ago when I started seeing my chiropractor and I felt really good after that. I started eating very clean.
About 5 months ago i did another but only 2 days as I couldn't afford more, but felt no change. The juices were good and i was filled up, but the benefit wasn't there. I talked to the rep and she asked what was I eating prior to the fast-- I told her green smoothies, greens, nuts and seeds. Very little processed anything.
She nodded and said what you were eating prior to the fast is what is in the juices. So your body didn't notice any difference.

If you want to do a juice fast-- DO NOT USE store bought juices. There is way to much crap in them and will probably make you hungrier for the sugar and other additives.

KIMCOLLINGS Posts: 2,328
12/18/12 12:52 P

This may be a little late, but you could try adding juices and/or green smoothies to your diet, instead of replacing your meals with them. I juice in the morning because the nutrients are easily absorbed on an empty stomach and I do a green smoothie in the blender in the afternoon sometimes. I add flax and protein powder to the smoothies and replace lunch with it as it is well rounded (vitamins, minerals, protein, healthy fats). The green smoothie also retains all of the fiber which is filling and great for digestion. Anyway, I believe it is a great way to get the health benefits of the vegetables (and some fruits...I stick mostly to veggies because of the sugar content in fruit) if you don't eat them regularly. I also find that once I drink a juice or smoothie I feel like I did something healthy and am less inclined to eat non healthy foods. Anyway, hope this might help. OH yes....cucumbers are my go to veggie. I've read that they are 97% water. I get tons of juice out of them so they are my base and then I add other veggies to them (beets, carrot, sweet potato-my fave, etc.)

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12/3/12 3:41 P

When I am psychologically preparing myself for anything in the future, meditation does sound like one of the best options. I just did a 65 hour juice fast and there was really no remarkable change or feeling other than being a little sleepier than usual. So, I will definitely take everyone's advice and not repeat any "detox fast" again. I am surprised that no one shared any positive experiences with juice fasting considering that it seemed to be popular when I was researching...

ANYWAY I am now starting a better way of eating with plenty more vegetables and hopefully it sticks with me for life. :)

One thing I am somewhat confused about is the slowed metabolism...I mean, isn't that a good thing? I know a higher metabolism is better for losing weight, but losing weight is not exactly my primary health goal...

BRITOMART Posts: 7,426
12/2/12 12:38 P

Good food is not a toxin, so no "de-tox" is necessary if you are eating properly with clean, healthy, wholesome foods.

If you are not eating properly, begin to, and your body will sort itself out.

If you need a psychological refocus, fine, but don't take it out on your body...which is a system that thrives on a healthy consistency. Try meditation, or exercise, prayer, or something that lets your body do its thing in peace.

(Just because you did it before is not a good criterion for safety...I did lots of things when I was younger that weren't smart or safe; I survived, but that doesn't make what I did wise...)

RAINBOWCHARMER SparkPoints: (53,072)
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12/1/12 6:36 P

Juice fasting, or most other fasting with the exception of for medical reasons is not good for you on any level.

Fasting tells your body that food is scarce. This causes your body to begin cannibalizing your muscle tissue, and storing fat. You NEED fat to survive. You do not NEED muscle. So your body eats that for fuel. It slows your metabolism down, so when you do begin to eat again, you will pile on fat quickly because your body is not sure if the food is going to disappear again, so it slows your metabolism to a crawl to preserve your life. Your body will begin producing excess stress hormones like cortisol, which contribute to belly fat (the worst type of fat for your heart, etc)... none of these sounds like a good way to jump start a healthy lifestyle to me...

If you truly want to "detox" your body - feed it only healthy whole foods, and drink lots of water. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, etc. in a quantity suitable to your calorie needs. This would be the ideal way to start a healthy change...

Good luck.

AILEBBELIA SparkPoints: (13,410)
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12/1/12 5:58 P

i see you are recovering from disordered eating ....Please evaluate whether the "appeal" has nothing to do with disordered eating thoughts.

Is it also motivation derived from not eating....no chewing...no sitting with the feeling of satiety...no planning how big to cut your food...or how many times you chew your food..

The D. around here is right that fasting for that short time will not cause damage. But, if have a history of disordered eating, it could trigger a setback.

I use to fast for five days straight (for years).

Fasting still holds an appeal for me. If I were left to my own devices, I would very much be fasting right now.

Emptiness is happiness....(was my frame of mind 24/7-no exceptions). Fasting alleviated the anxiety of eating and planning how much and when to eat. (For people with anorexia, fasting lowers serotonin levels =anorexic high.)

I am in recovery now and and i'm very closely monitored. I am not allowed to fast for any length of time.

Learning how not to use food as a response to my emotions (or to dictate my mood) has been the hardest part of recovery. I don't fast to feel happy anymore. I don't binge and purge when i'm anxious.

Food is just food now...

If i'm angry, mad, sad, anxious, unmotivated, tired etc.... I recognize the feeling and don't turn to food as a response. I have coping strategies now..


Good Luck in your recovery.





Edited by: AILEBBELIA at: 12/1/2012 (18:52)
XXDANII SparkPoints: (1,517)
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12/1/12 3:59 P

I wanted to feel as though I have eliminated all animal waste from my body and also get motivated to be a healthier vegan. I didn't think that there was anything wrong with wanting to formally begin such changes by fasting, especially since I had done it before. I guess what I meant to say was "diet change" as opposed to "system reboot", and I believe such changes certainly have a mental aspect as well...hence my focus on motivation :)

& I have no idea what the difference is either but I did get bored and blend a couple drinks for myself today. So glad I did...I have not read about any true physical benefits either, other than as placebo, but fasting has always appealed to and worked for me when I want to change my diet. I think it would be harder for me to just switch though.

I did start today because I feel the three days will be short enough to not cause any damage, but long enough to prepare me for my readjusted diet. :)
Any other info on juice fasts is welcome!

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
12/1/12 2:41 P

I don't actually know the difference between a juicer and a blender, but do you have a blender? Could you put fresh fruit in that and puree it and drink that? I puree fruit in my blender all the time and it's great. Though there's not any advantage over eating the fruit except that you don't have to put yourself to the trouble of moving your jaw up and down.

I've never done a fast but I've also never needed to reset my eating. When I want to change my eating drastically, I just start eating the new way and stop eating the old way, but I don't have an interim period where I don't eat. I've never seen anything reputable that fasts were healthy so didn't appeal to me to try. Good luck though if you do it.

OPUSEVA Posts: 1,304
12/1/12 12:53 P

What in the #e%% makes you think your "system" needs "rebooting"? At all? Ever??
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XXDANII SparkPoints: (1,517)
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12/1/12 11:41 A

Thank you all for replying :)

I was considering doing the juice fast in order to reduce my cravings for certain foods before I begin a new meal plan. In previous years when I have completed any sort of fasting I often feel more psychologically motivated afterwards to keep up with healthy eating.

I became vegan a couple months back so I am doing this juice fast with the hopes of feeling that same motivation from before. I was just curious if there would be any significant effects, but from what you all say it sounds like not much else will happen.

The previous fasts were water ONLY. So this time around I was looking to incorporate juices since I have heard that it is healthier than plain fasting.

If not by using a juice fast, what methods do you folks use to "reboot" your system, if any at all? And how often? :)

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11/30/12 8:41 P

Since you don't own a juicer, why not just eat the fruits and vegetables in solid form? And drink water.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
11/30/12 8:15 P

I am a diabetic, and the only thing my doctor told me was worse than pop, was fruit juice, since we think it is healthy. Especially store bought.

Becky is correct that as a young, healthy person it will not hurt you to do it for 3 days, but it will max out your blood sugars, and force your body to produce Insulin to store all that energy. It does this by turning excess glucose to body fat. This process is the cause of the obesity epidemic, and increasing diabetes. Juice is just sugar, that is easily digestible.

So in the long run, juice can be very deadly. In the short run, you may actually increase your body fat, while losing weight. With almost no protein, and limited calories, your body will be using your muscle at the same time it is storing fat.

Since it has no health benefit, why would you want to do it?

SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 1,834
11/30/12 8:07 P

I don't juice.... nor do I recommend it. Commercial brand juices are usually loaded with sodium and sugar. I think you would be better off eating raw veggies and whole fruits and drink lots of water. Water lessens the burden on our kidneys & also the liver by flushing out waste products and toxins. Water is a natural cleanser that detoxify's the brain and body to function optimally not juice.

Fresh vegetables provide the brain with essential nutrients and antioxidants.... also, fruits and vegetables are rich sources of water to help keep us hydrated

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,623
11/30/12 7:46 P

If you are a healthy adult with no medical issues--a short 3 day juice fast is probably not going to hurt you...
But it will not provide any health benefits either. There is no benefit to the body.
Why not start eating a healthier diet using these type super foods:
www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=307


SP Dietitian Becky

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 13,706
11/30/12 7:38 P

I have done stuff like that before. I don't recommend it. I found out that I like to eat my food and not drink it.

XXDANII SparkPoints: (1,517)
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11/30/12 6:43 P

Hey all! I will be starting a short juice fast tomorrow, despite criticisms that I have read online.
I did not find any information regarding drinking store-bought juices in place of fresh juiced fruit.

I do not own a juicer, so instead bought several varieties of both vegetable and fruit juices...since the "detox" I am going to do is fairly short I figured that it would be fine to do this.
Has anyone done a juice fast using grocery store products??
Also, how was your experience of doing such a short fast? Did it make any difference to your health, body, etc?

Thanks!! :)
Dani

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