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DARKFLAME2009
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2/8/11 8:18 P

you NEED that amount of calories just for your body to do it's natural functions (ie breathing, thinking, etc....)

If you are trying to get some more cals try a handful of nuts, higher fat dairy, olive oil when cooking, real butter instead of margarine (which is better for you anyways since hydrogenated oil is linked to many health issues).....



LOVE2BTHIN2
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2/8/11 6:44 P

What if you are just under 1200 calories because you've increased your intake of vegetables and fruit? I am eating lots more vegetables and fruit so it feels like I'm eating all the time, but I don't feel hungry. I try to balance my meals out so I get enough protein, and not too much sodium, but am usually slightly under recommended carbs (but still over 120) and low on fats at the end of the day. Is it better to eat something just for the sake of getting my calories up to 1200? (I looked at the site's recommendations for upping calories and most are trigger foods for me that I need to avoid- suggestions here would also be good.) Thanks for any and all help!



KTRIBE808
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2/8/11 6:11 P

Approvimatedly 70% of your free energy is used simply getting substances in and out of cells (active transport). That alone takes at least 900 to 1000 calories per day!



AILEBBELIA
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2/8/11 5:00 P

Woobie, if your doctor is just going by labs then please consider seeing a new doc.

Normal lab results are very common on someone who is very underweight. I just mine tested again in December and they were also right on the nose too
(normal). My nails are still purple and I still get cold but it's not really cold outside (71 degrees).
My hair is still falling out etc..

Here are some links about people with normal labs and who are underweight:

fishyvb.something-fishy.org/archive/index.
php/t-175048.html


"..blood values can be normal and cannot, therefore, be used as a proof of adequate nutrition."
www.bulimia.com/client/client_pages/exerpt
pgd3.cfm


"..normal lab results despite clear-cut anorexia – occurs so often­ is that the body works very hard and very effectively to compensate for starvation. The ups and downs of human evolution have ensured that the body is well-adapted to surviving famine. Usually labs will stay normal until the patient is in very serious medical trouble, and then things go downhill so fast.."
www.eatingdisordersblogs.com/nutrition/200
9/04/labs-say-youre-fine-doctor-says-y
oure-sick-whats-going-on.html


hugs!



DIETITIANBECKY
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2/8/11 2:23 P

Thought I would chime in since I am the SP dietitian.
For someone who is of shorter stature (example 4'8-4'11), their weight loss calorie range may need to be a little lower, such as around 1000.

And there are lower calorie ranges (example: 800) when a diet program is MEDICALLY SUPERVISED with check-ups every few weeks. However, research does not support this for long term.

Since SP is a general, computer-based weight loss site--we use the general calorie recomendations and set a 1200 calorie minimum.

This calorie amount is primarily for meeting ones total nutritional needs--still a multivitamin-mineral supplement is probably a good idea.

I am not sure what your calorie range is--weight loss is NOT your concern. Are you trying to gain weight? maintain weight?

Hope this helps to clarify.

SP Registered Dietitian Becky

Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 2/8/2011 (21:44)


JAZZYJAS
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2/8/11 2:16 P

Just out of curiosity, how tall are you?



WOOBIE0902
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2/8/11 2:03 P

I dont want to eat less, I am actually following a high protein diet to put on some muscle and weight training 3 days a week.

I just have a poor appetite and eat very clean, so my food options are limited. I try and meet the max on my protein needs.

My GP isnt a lot of help; he goes by the numbers and if my CBC and metabolic are right on the nose, he says I am doing fine. He thinks I'm thin, but not overly concerned about it.

I was just curious because someone else mentioned exceptions. Every rule has its exceptions (or in other words, I dont beleive in absolutes.)

Thanks for all the responses.





JAZZYJAS
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2/8/11 11:59 A

Why do you want to eat less?



MELLYGRITS
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2/8/11 11:45 A

U have done great how have u done it?



MANDIETERRIER1
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2/8/11 11:29 A

I would think so.

If you feel like you are starving you won't stick to healthy eating


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VASHLUVER1
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2/8/11 11:01 A

I would say so. Anything less than that is definitely starvation. What happens to your body after that, it adjusts its need so that you actually don't need as many calories as before. Then when you go back to how you ate before, you gain a bunch of weight. I would stick to between 1300-1800, depending on how much you exercise and how much you want to lose. You can actually check your BMR to see how many calories your body actually needs to survive.



KLIGNACIO9779
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2/8/11 10:34 A

I think it is an absolute or you risk your body going into starvation mode and your metabolism slowing down and no one wants that!



MRS_4EVER_AFTER
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2/8/11 10:28 A

I don't know if they are valid but another exception is someone with higher weight. The more you weigh, the more food you need, bc your starvation point will be higher. It's recommended to not go below a 20% deficit for your daily BMR (including activity level). 25% in EXTREME cases- but not recommended.



CRZYQUILTER
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2/8/11 9:16 A

One of the sparkcoaches said one time about being under 1200 but I can't remember now the height and weight she gave. I want to think it was like 4'11"???



IBHLKING
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2/8/11 9:12 A

I would only follow a plan that is less than 1200 calories if you have checked with your doctor first and then continue to be monitored. Calories are only a part of eating healthy so it would be important to make sure you get all the essentials nutrients in. Losing weight to only create other health issues doesn't make sense.



KISSFAN1
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2/8/11 8:52 A

Yes, if you are really short (not sure of the cut off for the height) then you could go under that amount.

My doctor told me that I could eat just 1000 calories a day and be okay, but I'm not interested in eating that low, LOL.

I've done fine at the calorie count I'm at (anywhere from 1200-1400 calories). Some people are put on very low calorie diets (under 1200 calories) by their doctors and as long as they are supervised they are fine.

I think the main reason for 1200 calories suggested on here (for women) is that it is hard to get all the nutriets you need in your daily diet if you go under that amount.



WOOBIE0902
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2/8/11 7:12 A

On another thread someone mentioned exceptions to this rule, such as very short stature; and/or weight below 100 and age.

Are these exceptions valid?



 
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