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ROBYNHOME
3/25/07 10:38 P
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| well we were doing well until tonight. couldn't find her little bear that she wanted and she watched a little TV before going to bed. I'm hoping it's the tv. that's easy not to turn on.
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| The past few nights, we've put our 3 1/2 yr old daughter in her room - making sure that she has her dolls and stuffed animals. Now, if she wants one of us to stay longer than we're willing or gets out of bed for any reason - to tell us something more, ask a question, go to the bathroom, get a drink -- she has to give us a toy. So far - she's averaged getting out of bed 3 times and has fallen asleep within 45 minutes of her bedtime. Hopefully, it will last!
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| I'm definitely open to ideas. Last night we put her in her room and then ignored her. I went to check on her 1/2 hr later and she was still awake - not playing, not talking - she just said she couldn't fall asleep. I told her to try some more. She was still awake 45 minutes later at 10:00. Seemed to be that the 2nd time I told her to go to sleep (at 10) that she fell asleep within 15 minutes.
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BUSYMOMOF4KIDS
3/12/07 6:13 P
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| You could try putting her in her room and then putting a baby gate up so she can come out. We found out that the more we told ours to go to bed and to be quiet the more they played and stayed awake once we put the gate up and ignored them they started to go to sleep about 30 minutes after we put them in their room. Now we don't even have to put the gate up.
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I'm in the same boat. My 3 1/2 year old does not like going to sleep. We thought that when she got her own bed, things would change, then when she turned 3, now that she has her own room - it's not working. She's either playing until 10:00 at night or coming out of her room or wants me or my DH to stay with her. the routines don't seem to work. so the question is -
Be super tough - put her in her bed, in her room, turn the hall light out or close her door
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stay with her until she falls asleep
or is there another option?
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BUSYMOMOF4KIDS
3/8/07 2:08 P
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| Have you tried Music? Our 2 year old wouldn't sleep or stay a sleep and a friend told us to start playing music at night so we bought some of those baby sleep time CD's and a CD player that we could put on repeat and since then he has for the most part slept all night and usually goes to sleep in about 15 minutes of us putting him down.
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MELODYAM75
3/4/07 10:03 A
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| Hi. My five-year-old doesn't like to go to sleep either. He doesn't fuss or throw a fit or anything like that, but he just doesn't go to sleep until about 10pm every night and sometimes later. I put him in his room by 9pm. He gets up at 7am on weekdays to go to preschool and they take a two hour nap there and I think that is part of the problem. He really doesn't need a nap, but when he takes one he stays up later. I hope he will go to sleep earlier when he gets to regular school with shorter naps and no naps at all.
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thanks, i will have to try the chamomile drops in addition to hylands and ibuprofren i already give him. our bed actually is a mat and there is zero floor space when it is out but he does have his nascar blanket set he sleeps on for a good part of the night. 
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OH, I forgot about that one...my husband started playing cars with our son when I wasn't home...we have a special box of cars that are "Daddy's Cars" that only come out when Daddy plays with the kids...it started as an activity for only when mommy wasn't home though.
Beth
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HI - First take a deep breath - this too shall pass! My youngest was much like yours. He nursed exclusively until he was well over a year, and continue to nurse until just about his second birthday. He has always preferred me. Teething is hard - it must be really painful for him. I used a combination of ibuprofin (teething causes pain and swelling - ibuprofin works better for that) and Hyland's teething tablets, and chamoille drops.
I also am a firm believer in routines. Work on getting a good nap and night time routine (lunch, diaper change, story, nap - or walk, bath, story, nurse, bed). I agree with the other poster as well - the more tired he becomes, the less sleep he will get. They get so tired and worked up that they can't soothe themselves to sleep. Overtiredness will cause more night waking as well.
We co-slept some as well. I know space is a constraint for you, but you might try creating his own space for sleep. Maybe a nap mat that you can store under your bed and pull out when he is ready to sleep. Let him pick out a cool sheet or pillow case for his big boy bed! You might find now that he is bigger that you are waking each other up - my son takes up our whole bed now - no one gets good sleep when we are all three in it!
I would take the time for yourself as well - start with short intervals. Mommy is going to get the mail and I will be right back. Work to a short walk, and then to an outing. Teach him that you always come back for him. He will learn to be able to be away from you. Have special things that daddy only does with him - we started with a box of shaving cream, puzzles, etc that my husband would only get out when I wasn't home.
Good luck!
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 I remember our oldest son used to get up and come in our room every night. He wouldn't get in our bed though. He would lay down under our bed with his head sticking out. What was that about? Haha. We had to be careful not to step on the little guy. In fact all of the kids at one time or another would come back to our room. My youngest only started sleeping by himself at 6 yrs old. Watch out for sugars, starches and hidden caffeine. I also found that a nice warm bath with lavender helped them sleep. Remember this young moms, this too shall pass. One day they will be sleeping in their own beds, they will go away to college and their own families. While it is stressful now, it is a relatively short period of time that you will be living this.
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My son also had sleep issues. It seemed that every morning I would wake up and he was in bed with me and I never even felt him or heard him. My 2 year old doesn't usually go to sleep at bedtime either but she stays in her room until she falls asleep and she is also up about as early too. I agree if you are really that stressed you need to take time for you. He may cry at first but if you leave the house at the same time every day for the same length of time for a walk your son will get used to the fact that you leave and come back. If your husband is the type that won't be left with the screaming child so you can recharge you really need to find someone who will give you an hour at least three times a day...maybe you could swap time with another mom in the area. Hope this helps.
Beth
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i start bedtime routine around 7,he is in bed around 8 or 830 but will not go to sleep until 930 or 10 sometimes. he wakes up 2-4 times at night and is up for the day between 7-830 am. we live in a studio so leaving him in his own room and letting him cry and fuss by himself if he does not want to go to bed is not an option. we all sleep on one bed. he is still breastfeeding, although he does not necessarily wake up in the night to breastfeed. thank you all for any input. 
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| Hi, I'm a mom of 4 ages 24, 22, 15 and 7. I've worked in daycares and had my own daycare and am inches from a degree in communications. So with that background I'll say this. Who is the boss in your home? I know that you want to be a caring loving parent, however, getting this stressed out is not good. You have to take control. If you can watch a few episodes of Supernanny or Nanny 911. It will be hard at first but you need to be firm about bedtime. And you need to have your husband take your son out on their own. Believe me, your son will get over it. And you will feel so much better.
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Sorry, you are having a rough time. How many hours does he sleep? Is there some other medical problem that is bothering him? Tylonal for the teething may help ease some of his pain.
I have found with mine, that once they are OVER TIRED that it is harder to get them to settle down. They need a certain amount of hours or they can show signs similar to ADD.
For stress releif, I like to kick and punch my standing bag. One time I ended up cleaning the ivy from our apartment. I was climbing all over the back of it, and I just started ripping it all off. That was GREAT! (at the time I didn't have kids) Any freinds that he could go play with for a little bit? or relatives to be with just even for 30 minutes?
Hope you can find some relief from this. I know it's hard.
Beckie
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any moms have advice for some non time consuming stressbusters??? my son is 17 months old and rarely feels the need to sleep whether it be day or night. also he is teething hard and i can only do so much for him. the end result of all this is i am stressed out frazzled over extended bitchy and impatient this past week. any stress busters other than taking a shower/bath, taking a walk and going to the park or beach??? all those things i already do. really need to chill out. he does not want to be with anyone but me so my husband taking our son out and away for a little bit is not an option right now.
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