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Good call on an avenue I hadn't driven down yet!
Sounds fair and even to me, plus you get the cute and emotional points!
I know, I know, it sounds like a game but being considerate and prepared is priceless. Shows a lot of thought in your gift giving.
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| Seriously...but it could be a trick as well--she might say "well that's all you think I'm worth" at which point I should be read to say "I don't think we can put a price tag on each other so lets leave it at zero!"
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| No doubt! Check the limit or else you'll get busted and put in the dog house for overspending and then she'll have to go back out and match the difference and that'll be another week in the back yard! '-)
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DLEAVITT
12/10/07 12:50 P
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My GF and I need a TV so that is our mutual gift to each other (which somehow I feel like I got the better end of the deal until she forces me to watch Oprah or something with her!)
But for fun, we set a price limit and made rules that it has to be within the price limit and everything must fit in the stocking--she loves the idea and thinks its fun. FYI-the price limit can be low--I think ours is like $30, I should probably double check that with her!
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| Day spa passes always seem to score high on the scale around my place.
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Ask one of her friends.
But don't expect the friend to keep it a surprise.
you can get a recommendation, but expect the friend to tell your wife what she told you.
Good Luck
Toby
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ERIC22MIL
12/6/07 11:39 A
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Where do we go from here? I am in flux for a gift for my wife for Christmas. What does a woman really want-married for 18 years-she is comfortable with what she has-she is a reader-Barnes and Noble gift cards are out-done that to many times.
She also comes back with, "You don't need to get me anything." (I view this as a bullet in my head statement).
Maybe to comfortable in the marriage and not I am out of touch-
Any opinions??
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THUNDADIVA
12/6/07 11:25 A
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Ah, the ornery cloaked in innocence.
You two crack me up!
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What? 
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| Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more say no more!
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Good luck, guys! 
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There's a usable tidbit!
I believe I actually have that in the cupboard, even!
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| The most powerful reaction (as in, it was instant, positive, and I had to leave the room because the man is my friend and so is his wife!) I ever had to men's cologne is Mary Kay's "Domain." Wow.
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That's a given....I'm a take it or leave it kind of guy - as Popey said, "I yam who I yam". But wearing the wrong scent, now that could be a show-stopper before the show even gets the curtain lifted!
Never hurts to do the homework and spy a bit in to the other camp. '-)
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DWAYNE052066
11/30/07 8:40 P
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BE yourself women love that
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SPLATMAN
11/28/07 12:59 P
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Ya! How about some tips from the ones we're trying to impress!
A little help here!
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ERIC22MIL
11/28/07 8:12 A
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| Double black, I will check that one out. Think of others let me know.
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Polo double black is hot, and so sexy
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And I see Aqua Velva is coming back. Man! My grandfather used that stuff and he'd really lay it on. Guess that's why I shy away from it, but still interesting that it's on a comeback.
Of all places, Avon has a scent called Driven that isn't too bad. Armani is still the best brand to stay on me without souring but it's pretty pricey so I make a little go a long way.
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ERIC22MIL
11/19/07 10:59 A
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Thanks - I new it was soMething like that. Some girls actually still like "old Spice" - have not use that for years - actually thought of as my father's aftershave.
"Green Tea" - interesting?
I agree Confidence - is probably best thing out there - with the discerning woman of today.
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Pheromone? Supposedly it attacts the opposite sex. I dunno about all that.....I thought confidence was sexy!
A light green tea scent is okay as long as it stays light. My ex wore Allure and I can stil pick that scent out of a french house of ill repute.
This sounds kinda hokey but for some reason Brut still sells a bunch and really isn't too bad if used sparingly. Does kind of remind me of a high school locker room, though.
I can wear any real scents as they tend to sour on me after a while. It's usually a really high-dollar cologne that sticks with me but I'll only use it for a special occasion.
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ERIC22MIL
11/17/07 2:06 A
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| With the holidays coming, for the women who reads this, what male cologne/spray do you recommend? Plus what is it call, start with a "ph-something". The higher the better of this? -Any thoughts?
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JDMAKEIT2HOT
11/16/07 6:33 P
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hmm i wear lucky you, or curve the blue bottle not the pink one.
on guys i like lots of different smells as long as its not a rotton ass smell ilike it haha and i do like the way guys smell after a workout or stuff like that
is a earthy sent like green tea kinda perfume?
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The scent business - almost as good as a college level bookstore for making serious money!
Scents are not protected by any law, copyright or patent and anyone can make a knock-off or "smells like" product. Crazy industry.
I have to admit, I really can't stand going by a perfume counter or area in a department store. There are so many bottles being opened and sprayed and tested it all gives me a headache and if I really wanted to find a good scent for me or someone else, I can't do it with all those other smells floating about.
My question is this: just what makes a scent "earthy"?
In a guy's world, earthy could mean MANY things that the woman's scent might not be!
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CRUNCHYGRANOLA
11/3/07 8:14 P
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| I am one who wears what is known as earthy scents. My husband calls me a hippy...I dress like i am going to a Grateful dead show...he doesn't mind...
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SPLATMAN
10/28/07 10:39 P
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For those who were on the thread "On Being a Man" - where the heck has it gone?!?! And even more important, anyone hear anything from SlyDoc in a while?
Seems strange that I can't find the thread or anything posted by SlyDoc in any search. His web page is still up but even others from his various teams are wondering where he's at.
Anyone know anything about our bud?
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Not quite done yet. I'm packing now for my flight tomorrow and then I'll be back again regularly this weekend.
Looking forward to catching up! See ya'll soon!
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| HEY Splatman! Nice to see you on the boards again. How has your trip been? Well i hope. We had to leave all these posts for you to read when you got home. Would hate for you to be bored and feel left out lol.
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great. I leave for 18 days and NOW all the fun stuff starts up! I see how it is....
I'm alive and well - just checking in to see what's happening and THEN I get to join in!
See ya this weekend, kids!
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| You said he's shy so I can see why he wouldn't bring it home for fear that you feel he's not being respectful of you. Maybe just read through a Maxim and see if you can glean anything out of it to use. Then, pick a time and do it. Believe me nothing is more fun than springing something new on your spouse when they don't expect it.
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My husband reads those mags at work but they NEVER come home. I dont know if its because he is embarassed about reading them or what. I have told him to bring one home before and he never has so i never pushed the issue. Maybe i should just go buy one and surprise him. He is a very shy kind of person so openly talking about sex and such usually is an awkward and very short lived conversation. We love Sue Johanson. I find her very entertaining and informative. We dont get her in our area anymore though.
Angel, i too am more of the tomboy type. I just dont find interest in all the womens magazines about fashion. I have flipped through in a doctors office but that is about it. I find the mens mags way more interesting myself.
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Yeah Angel, I'll second your opinion of Maxim being a good choice of what guys want.
My wife used to read it as soon as my issue came in the mail when I had a subscription.
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ANGELOFMUSIC54
9/13/07 10:22 P
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AS far as being more agressivve in the bedroom (and speaking from experience), it means that she wants you to be more instinctive...meaning this: She wants you get more in touch with your primitive animalistic side. Mix human intelligence with animal instictiveness. Try something new, daring and different...a new position, a new idea....blind fold her and seduce her, hand cuff her, ask her what her ultimate fantsy would be and fulfill it....just a few ideas
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ANGELOFMUSIC54
9/13/07 10:15 P
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| Oh yeah, and talk sex with sue johansen show...totally watch that...trust me, its awesome!!
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ANGELOFMUSIC54
9/13/07 10:13 P
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Vic, being a fellow female (and it's a miracle I stumbled in here) I must say I agree with you on Cosmo, although I have learned some of my best techniques in a few areas there ((email me if you want more on that..I have some techs that NEVER fail)) but as far as what men want, yeah i agree...Cosmo is NOT the best. I would go with Men's Health, Maxim, and GQ to name a few. read them all and you will get a relatively well rounded view I would think...a lot of from the men's health...I read those mags bc I find them amazingly intriguing, seeing as I'm not much of a fashionista either
I'm more of a Tomboy..and I definitely know wha tmen want...no in a bragging sense, but just in a sense where I know what works for them..I read a lot..or I used to at least...like I said, let me know
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I love that show!!!!
Though it does sometimes creep me out seeing her with some of the "toys" and props she uses to instruct.
Great show to watch together as a couple.
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I put the caveat in that they may not be accurate. Actually some of their advice is sooooo far off base.
The only good thing is that it might cause women to feel more confident, which is sexy in itself so can be a good thing.
Talk Sex with Sue Johanson used to be on Oxygen network would be a good place to start.
Books: "Guide to getting it on" and "The Good Vibrations Guide to Sex".
movies/DVD: Nina Hartley has a series out on various sex topics and techniques, I think Adam and Eve distribute them.
Those would be resources for women.
I think part of the lack of resources for women is that men aren't as picky. So men have to learn more techniques so that they can please the woman, while women sometimes "just has to show up".
Good Luck
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| Cosmo is so superficial. Womens magazines are so vain. I dont want to know about beauty and fashion. As far as pleasing a man, Cosmo is NOT the place to learn that. Cosmo is more for the fashionable, trendy woman. Not that i am not trendy or fashionable. But i do not rely on a magazine to tell me what to wear or what not to wear. And i certainly do not go by what they consider "the perfect size". I have sat and read these magazines in doctors offices and they really dont give much insight to the sexual wants and needs of a man. I am going to do some digging on this. I will get back to you.
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Women have "Cosmo"
I am not sure if cosmo is very accurate, but if it makes women happy and "excited", men can live with it.
Toby
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*wonders if she can sign her husband up for that newsletter*
I wonder if there is something like that out there for women as well.
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Vic is pretty much right. It sounds like she wants you to step up in some way but be careful you don't go overboard here. Try to get which areas she wants you to step up in and then go for it.
And if it's the bedroom, I'd suggest going to menshealth.com and checking out The Girl Next Door and the other expert articles in Sex and Relationships and settling in for some good old trial and error experimentation. They put out a newsletter every Wednesday with techniques and different moves to try. It's gotten to the point where my wife looks forward to Wednesday more than I do.
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| Ok, i am in the dark myself on this one. More agressive .... hmmmmmmmmmm. That could mean many things really. Does she want you to take control of the household more maybe? Is she the dominant one in the relationship? If so, maybe this is what she wants. By saying agressive she means that she wants you to be the rock of the family. Or maybe she means (pardon me saying this) in bed. Maybe she wants a little more control from you in that area. All i can really think of is that she wants a more domineering husband. One who takes control of things at home instead of letting the wife do it. Good luck figuring that one out. I have no idea what she really wants either.
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| I need some help. I just got married about four months ago. My wife and I have been fighting and not getting along for the last three months. We talked last night and she said that she wants me to be more aggressive. Do you guys have any idea what that means because she couldn't explain it and I have know idea.
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OH MAN!! The old tubes! I was try8ing to repress that memory, thank you very much! '-)
We used to have to buy nearly a thousand balls once a month IN TUBES. Somehow in shipping to Germany [go figure], the tubes would invariably have at least one broken ball and we'd have to check every tube if not each ball.
We were in the rod and gun club one weekday when UPS showed up with new paint tubes - I told him to stop busting our balls - and he didn't get it! I thought the sales guy was going to bust a gut or fall down laughing. My buddy couldn't keep a straight face, either.
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I grew up in those days, and still have my origional Splatmaster (10 round "cigar tubes")to prove it. I also still have my old Tigershark pump, and break it out every so often for woodsball.
My tournament marker is a Autococker Outkast with an E-blade trigger. I went through about a case in the 5 games I played at todays tournament. As opposed to the 30-40 rounds like it was in the old days of the sport.
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Coolness. Sponsors are nice, especially when you sling a ton of paint.
I'm an old-school player and like to slither through the woods and hunt the opposition down. We played before the sponsors started getting involved and play involved a case of paint in each round of play. When we had to pay for our own paint we had to make a case last a while!
I still have my PMI Traccer - all tricked out and bored and honed. Long barrel and really smooth and short pump throw. I also have an F2 Illustrator that throws paint like a madman - keeps up with auto-cockers and double triggers, it does! And just for fun, I have an old Rapide 12 gram.....with all the extras to make it a long paintgun and a 12 ounce tank. I'm going to keep that for posterity sake!
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River City Open is a PSP event(big national tournament like you see on ESPN) that is sponsored by the majority of the paintball industry. Usually it's the first week of August I think.
My team is sponsored by Redz, partially by ProCaps(paint mainly), and First Strike Paintball in Chippewa Falls(our home field).
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| Ronin- who's sponsoring/hosting the games up there? Better yet - who sponsors your team? I get to Omaha almost once a month with my army reserve duties and might be around depending on when you're in the area. Something to look forward to!
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Oh man, Boundry Waters, I haven't been there in years. We used to do a week through there every summer, me and the guys. Unfortunatly they have all moved and "grown up" and such, and I can't get my wife near a canoe. Yes, that trip could give off it's own special brand of funk! Nothing like dirt,sweat, alge, plants, and Deep Woods Off to mix into something that would gag a maggot!
Splat,
Yeah, that's a shame. My team will be down in the Omaha area next Aug. for the River City Open, if you're close by we'll have to grab a drink.Trying to hit some of the indoor tourneys this winter in the area. Maybe we'll get into that area.
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HA! No kiding - those flag guarding guys can really pour [or should I say PORE] it on.
Too bad we're not closer - we could trade some shots back and forth!
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It has been interesting to get the "man's view" on the funk. I live in Wisconsin, so I will need to make sure I am down wind of all you paintball enthusiasts
It does give me an advantage to live right by Lake Superior because the wind comes off the Lake a lot and there isn't any paintball areas in that direction, they are on the other side of town. Whew!!! Literally! 
With our youth group we often go to the Boundary Waters and see how bad we would come out stinking. Good thing we showered before we would go to Swen and Olie's Pizza place in Grande Marais!!!
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Hey Splat, I sling the paint around Wisconsin, but we play tournaments in MN, and are sending a team to Spyder Cup in Chicago also.
Yes, the funk is nasty, especially when you have the "Back" players all in one vehicle. Large guys who have been running all day...........
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Ronin - I see you sling paint around and you're in the midwest.....wanna narrow that down a bit? I'm in Nebraska...
Paintball funk can get really nasty. Espcially if you happen to track something in with you that you weren't aware of....
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| The wife and I were just talking about this same subject. There is a co-worker that has an odor problem apparently, she does not shower. I told her to say something instead they all went to their boss and had a meeting about this individual.
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| Ronin, that Axe spray is self defense. Guy funk can get painful, especially if we've been running around for hours. I know from coming back from basketball, if you put four guys in a car after running for an hour or two, your eyes water. Two or three hours in a car after paintball must really be a choice smell there.
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| silly how we women are checking out the guys lounge. What better way to see what motivates them.
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That just reminds me of the guys from my paintball team. On the way back from tournaments, one guy passes around the can of Axe spray so we can stand being in the same vehicle for the 2-3 hour ride home.
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| A little goes a long way and a lot goes much farther. I've always been afraid of putting on too much cologne. If anything I err on the side of too little.
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TOMHENDRIX131
8/19/07 6:25 P
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| A little goes a long way in most cases
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| Oh I wasn't implying that, truly. It was just a blanket statement on those who do over use colognes, you know the one's whose scent reaches you waaaay before they actually do??
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THEMOTIVATOR1
8/19/07 1:43 P
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| What a minute people I didn't say I didn't like the perfume my wife was wearing just the amount.
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I just had to browse arond in the Guys' Lounge...just couldn't resist something that seemed so forbidden
Then I saw that a few other women had dared to come into the Lounge.
On the subject of perfume/cologne...I am very sensitive to most scents and often get a headache from strong colognes. I use to work in a YMCA and honestly I swore that the men's locker room shower sprayed out cologne rather than water. I couldn't believe how many men would come up just oozing (and it wasn't charm). Honestly I would rather smell the sweat in the gym.
To be fair... One time I was on an elliptical and some young gal got one next to me and I could hardly breathe. So much for an aerobic workout when you're holding your breath.
Fresh, clean soap is more provocative than strong, over-powering colognes.
Thanks for letting me briefly come into the Lounge!
Leslie
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| lmao @ had a little accident Russ. That is too funny lol. I cant say that me nor my husband have ever bought or used awful smelling purfume/cologne. We have always asked the others opinion before purchasing. I want him to be attracted to my scent, not repelled by it lol. Same goes for him. We only call other ppls awful smelling stuff bugspray.
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| My wife hasn't picked too many that were god awful. I'm not sure I'd use the bug spray comment. That just sounds like a bad idea to me. She did get one that was really old lady like. I don't remember the name but it had an accident. Fell in a trash can on pick up day. Very sad. The one she uses now works for her.
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| Me and my husband refer to awful perfume/cologne as bug spray. As far as the picnic table comment goes. My husband would be going hungry that night unless he was going to cook. If he got hungry and asked about supper i would have to tell him " well, theres the kitchen, use it"
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EKRACINSKI
8/12/07 8:46 P
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Not nice, but true in some cases nonetheless.
It reminds my of when my wife and I were walking through a nice department store and the spayed the cologne. I told me wife, "It smells like OFF!" and I got a dirty look from the sprayer.
We still use that expression to refer to bad cologne or perfume.
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THEMOTIVATOR1
8/12/07 2:23 P
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| My wife had so much perfume on I asked her what brand of bug repellent she was wearing. One hot summer day while sitting in the kitchen my wife said she wanted to go out to eat. So while looking out in the back yard I said "Well there's the picnic table".
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