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| meanwhile, a collective yawn is heard over the entire mets fanbase...to hell with clemens.
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It's on like Donkey Kong, Clemens you are going down you egotistical ass!
As you can guess things are a bit flustered here in Bostonia after his announcment... I got about 4 phone calls simultaniously as it happened.
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the thing about that story is that he keeps getting billed as "a former mets employee," with the implication that the mets employed a personal steroids supplier. the guy was a batboy for the mets, and in any case is not being accused of having distributed steroids during the time period in which he was employed by them. it just makes the mets look bad for no reason.
/end rant. :)
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5/1/07 1:32 P
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I think it'll end up being a race between Arod and Pujols for the #1 spot - I don't think A. Jones will make that much of a run.
I agree that Bonds wasn't the only one using. How many relief pitchers in the league are on something to help them pitch every day?
There is a story coming out about a clubhouse worker from the Mets who supplied tons of drugs to players from both leagues and numerous teams and he's cooperating with the Mitchell investigation. Should be interesting to see the names he names.
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SINCEREX13
5/1/07 12:30 P
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KINGWIER - I will be excited to see the record get broke by Bonds. I don't hate the man, the way I see things, it was steriod "era" for a reason, Bonds was hardly the only one using. I love the game of baseball, its my favorite of all sports but I just never got all worked up over 'performance enhancers'. I am surely happy that the MLB is trying to level the playing field and will be happy when steriods are irradicated, but I won't lament that they were part of the game.
Secondly, Bonds new record will not be standing for long, so I'll enjoy it for what it is, a hollow yet monumental achievement. Guys like Arod, Andruw Jones and Albert Pujols all will make a run at Bonds record and not one of them have had roids accusations swirling about them. Eventually the record will be held by a clean ballplayer.
In the end I'm just here to enjoy the sport, not curse it b/c of a man named Bonds.
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| I'd like to see The Braves win the series this year. It would be nice to see Smoltz get another one before he gets too old to pitch anymore.
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| Guessing that I'm the lone Rockies fan in here, I had high hopes at the begining of the year, but as usual they fell apart after a few games. Just my two cents........
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4/21/07 12:49 P
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| I am just happy to see the Braves atop of the NL East again. No offense at all but the pitching has been outstanding thus far. Hope Smoltz and Hudson can keep it going this year.
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I guess we might as well get used to strange ideas. Next after chemicals is bionics. None of us may be alive to see it, but I'm betting there will be controversy surrounding the first pitcher with a bionic arm or stolen base king with bionic legs... on it goes.
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| The most sacred of baseball's records will be broken and no one, outside of the Bonds family and some Giants fans, will celebrate. What a hollow achievement.
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Crazy4blues,
Not just because I am a natural rival of the Giants, but I'd rather see Bonds break Jim Rice's record for being beaned by pitchers in a season than watch him break Aaron's record. The guy is an embarrassment and he will not have got it the right way. Hank Aaron won't even go to the ball park to acknowledge him when he breaks his record.
http://tinyurl.com/yo2oyx
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MICKEYMETS
4/10/07 6:20 A
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| have to say, it was nice to sweep the cards (though they looked a lot better yesterday against pittsburgh - braden looper, of all people, pitched a nice game). but far more satisfying was watching jimmy rollins boot a ground ball yesterday AND ground into a double play after saying that the phillies were the team to beat in the NL east. man, if they are the team to beat, then this shouldn't be too hard, unless their starters pitch complete games every outing. their bullpen is terrible!
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| Last years season of suffering for Cardinals fans--except for that quirky WS victory--seems to be carrying over to this year. Could they stink any worse against the Mets? At least the bats are coming alive and this pitching staff might be better than last year's. Free agency did a nice housecleaning job for the Cards. Maybe a Cubs fan can explain why the Cubs saw fit to reward Jason Marquis with a fat contract after he sucked so badly last season. Play ball!
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Pitchers are looking great so far for the Sox... Papelbon looked like a man possesed last night. Papi finally got the bat going, now its Manram's turn.
Home opener tomorrow, stadium is a couple blocks down the street, may make my way over with a few buddies to try and get tickets, already have a bunch of buddies that got tickets. To bad Sox tickets are probably the rareset and most expensive tickets to acquire in all of sports.
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| mets home opener today at 1:10 - meeting friends for breakfast and then heading over there. best day of the year!
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| Well I'm a tiger fan. I think they will do great this year. Man look at our Opening Day Lineup, you have Magg's batting behind Sheffield.
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| i hear you - i am a met fan in an office and half a family full of yankees fans.
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| I'm a huge Red Sox fan.. As a matter of fact I'm watching opening day on NESN right now. Schill's not looking so good today. It's 2 to 1 KC right now.. Can't wait to see Dice-K. I'm going to opening weekend on 4/14. Can't wait!! Everyone else in my family are Yankess fans.. (makes for a fun baseball season!!)
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My problem is that my boyfriend doesn't like baseball. He claims that he likes it fine, but what he really means is "I don't HATE baseball" or perhaps "I tolerate baseball."
If I didn't know better, I'd think he was a musical theatre queen like my roommate!
Which is why I end up hanging out in places like the Guy's Lounge, I suppose. There really aren't any baseball forums out in girly land...
-Sarah
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MICKEYMETS
1/16/07 9:36 P
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| i know, right? seriously, though, she's been awesome about learning about the mets, watching games, and all that jazz. although she still runs and hides when my family and i watch football games together and scream at the TV. "why all the yelling?" she will exclaim. it's all good - i like baseball a bit better anyways.
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Mickeymets, you're joking, your girl was bothered by that???
Where are her priorities?
Just kidding. My husband's lucky I'm the serious fanatic in this house, when I take him to a game for father's day or get him a 7 pack for his April birthday, I just look like the perfect wife!
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CRAZY4BLUES
1/16/07 4:54 P
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WONG:
Well, as you probably know, I'm a Giants fan, and my initial reaction to the Zito deal was similar to yours. However, after thinking about it for awhile, I like the deal more and more:
1. The Giants lost their ACE (Schmidt). Zito, is, in fact, an ACE.
2. He was a very strong pitcher last year (no, not in the Cy Young running), but he was still very good in a superior league. The NL STILL has only two good teams: St Louis and Da Mets. So Zito won't have the same type of line ups to pitch to. So a very good pitcher in the AL becomes a GREAT pitcher in the NL.
3. He's only 28 years old. He's been good with a good team for so long, a lot of folks assume he's 37 or something.
4. The money really isn't an issue. The Giants have the '07 All Star game, so they'll be able to generate a lot of revenue for at leat one year.
5. Finally, Zito already lives in SF, so he wouldn't experience any culture shock. Frankly, an East Coast or midwest team wouldn't like him. As soon as he started having a slump they'd just say that it's because he's some New Age space cadet.
6. He'll be joining a stable of very good eperienced and younger arms. Matt Cain, IMHO, represents what Kerry Wood was supposed to have been. Also, Noah Lowery, while he may not be the next Tom Glavine, he is definitely on track to equal Kirt Reuter's very good record as a left for the Giants. Throw in Matt Morris and Russ Ortiz, and things could get good for the Giants.
So, to me, it looks good on paper. I'm willing to wait out a whole season before I really make up my mind on this one. I don't think that Zito really has anything to prove; he's already done that. If he continues to do what he did for the A's, the Giants will benefit.
The Giants STILL need somebody to protect Barry Bonds in the line up. Basically, they need Jeff Kent back. He's just that type of hitter.
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MICKEYMETS
1/16/07 12:27 P
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pitchers and catchers report on my fiancee's 30th birthday. i made the mistake of mentioning that this very important event was coincidentally occuring on the same day as her birthday and she was quite offended that i would even place them on the same plane. whoops.
another mets and jets fan here, waiting impatiently for baseball season to begin.
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I think that Johnson will help out our pitching rotation a lot, but I don't see how anyone should get paid those high prices. I am a teacher and see how that money could really be used to help better society. Kind of like Beckkham's $256 mil for playing soccer for LA. Oh well such is life I guess?
Andy Sartori, have you been to a game yet here? Chase field is great, although I will still call it B.O.B. for a while.
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ANDYSARTORI
1/12/07 8:10 P
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| I just moved to Arizona and I am trying to become a D-Backs fan. I think Johnson will do fine here. He still throws a 90+ MPH fastball. Whats not to like about that? Anyway, Bring on Spring Training.
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That's right, J-E-T-S!
But now that all of the NY teams are out of football, it's what, 30 days till pitchers and catchers? Time to get out my Mets stuff. All the way this year...
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| So the D-Backs get back Randy Johnson with his big price tag. Only have to have his physical and he is in. Not too sure if I want him here or not. We still owe him $40 million for when he was here before. Must be nice to get that type of money. I am a 5th grade teacher and could think of a lot of use for the $40 mil.
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OK, can any SF Giants fan explain how we (the A's) managed to unload Zito on you guys for $126 million? Granted he was great in the Big 3 era (Hudson, Mulder, Zito) but he's been getting worse and worse for the past 2 years.
I can understand paying that much for say Santana, but Zito?? The mind boggles....
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| It will be interesting to see what J.D. Drew will do in Boston. Will he play every day or will he be injured half the season? The White Sox made some changes. It should be another good race.
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| I was kind of hoping that the Dodgers would have picked up a power bat in the off season but I do like picking up Pierre and Schmidt. Wasn't sure what to make of Werth leaving. I was hoping he'd turn into that power bat but he had like no batting average to speak of. One day he'll figure out how to hit the ball and then we'll all be ticked off.
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| My wife and I are big D-Back's fans and are not too sure about bring back Randy Johnson. He was fine when he was here, but that was before all of his surgeries. They have 72 hours to come up with a $ package to offer him. We already owe him a lot of money already. See what will happen.
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MIKESNYDER
12/20/06 1:14 P
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| So what does everyone thin about the trades so far? The White Sox haven't done enough. They still need to trade some of their pitchers. They were great 2 years ago but not last year. The Cubs really went crazy. TRhey still couldn't win a pennent even if they had Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle in their prime. Soon the injuries will hit them and they won't have enough players.
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SINCEREX13
12/19/06 2:13 P
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| It's THE biggest Red Sox forum... You'd think the members worked for NASA when you see some of the numbers and stats they discuss. The sight often breaks news before the media, and Red Sox players and ex players often post there. Curt Schilling posts there a decent amount for example. Great website for a diehard fan.
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CRAZY4BLUES
12/19/06 1:48 P
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RUSS: well, it's two months since your post, but I have to agree with you--and I'm a Giants fan! I really don't see the point of hiring w/in your own division. What is Bochy going to do for the Giants? It doesn't really matter, though. It's pretty clear that the Giants don't have any real intention of winning anything next year. Signing Barry again for $16,000,000.00 for 1 year just means that they want the "gate" in the run-up to Barry's breaking Aaron's record. Pretty cynical!
And the Dodgers getting Jason Schmidt? That's just painful. Makes me sick . . .
Sons of Sam Horn?
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SINCEREX13
12/13/06 11:03 P
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According the the Herald http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=171915
The Red Sox signed DiceK tonight for 6/52... seems crazy in this market. Also turns out they had some help from the Dragons (DiceK's Japanese team). Rumor has it that the Dragons would have sent him to the minors had he returned thus adding another year before he became a free agent (2009) thus killing all leverage Scott Boras would have had in negotiations.
Being from Boston I am a huge Pats fan... but Baseball is first in this city and this is as big as it gets for us this off season. We needed to sign this guy and we signed him for less and longer than most ever anticipated.
Oh yeh, I can finally rest now, I have done nothing but refresh Sonsofsamhorn over the last week for hours on end following this story.
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RUSS1985
10/27/06 12:49 P
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I wouldn't quite call myself fairweather. I love the sport, but since neither of my teams made it out of the 1st round, I've started looking at other things.
BTW: The Giants have hired Bruce Bochy, from the Padres to Manage their squad from 2007 on. Bruce is a great guy and pretty sensible manager but now that he's wearing Giant colors, gotta hate him.
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MIKESNYDER
10/27/06 12:32 P
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| Talk about fair weather fans. Even though my ChiSox didn't make it to the series, I still enjoy the game. I hope the Cards soar and the Tigers go into hibernation.
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TOMMYGREEN
10/27/06 11:50 A
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I'm only a baseball fan when the Yankees and/or Mets are in the World Series. Although I'm a Yankees fan, I rarely ever watch the sport itself.
Football, on the other hand, is awesome and I never miss a Jets game.
J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS! JETS!
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RUSS1985
10/27/06 11:25 A
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Christopher,
Is there a sport you find remotely interesting?
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What, exactly, are you doing posting here then?!! Trying to make mortal enemies?
Baseball is awesome and so are my Cardinals!! We're all set to wrap it up tonight.
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CHRISTOPHERD
10/27/06 8:39 A
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| Baseball and Cricket are the most boreing games in the world! After Basketball that is! And Football and Tennis!
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CRAZY4BLUES
10/23/06 6:38 P
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Sara, I was all set to post again, but it was starting to sound like an echo chamber here!
I can't recall a more intense performance on the mound than that of Kenny Rogers; he was simply amazing. He would have beaten any team. And the pine tar or whatever it was? Come on! So what? At least he's cheating in the open and not in the locker room with a syringe . . .
So far, I really like the Series. But if the Cards are going to stay alive, they will need to keep hitting and hope that KR gets the flu or something. Also, Sara, I agree with you that when you go to St. Louis and see that sea of red shirts, it can be tough. It's a great baseball town. Also, I have all of those memories of Tony LaRussa's A's in the late 80s and early 90s. But, then again, I like Leyland, too. It's all very fun to watch, and if the Cards can keep hitting, it just might go seven games.
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| Now the umps are calling that dirt. The brown patch has shown up a couple of times in the past but it's dirt. Really. Come on, can a guy name Kenny Rogers really lie to you? It probably won't show up again until game 5 or 6 anyway.
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St. Louis is capable of amazing things, especially at home. Our fans are unbelievable. We have great pitching coming up and our rookie bullpen has surprised everyone. Our big hitters seem to have pulled out of their slumps. So, all that being said, I say bring it on! Even better than the split would have been to win last night. It was manageable since we were only 2 runs down and the bases were loaded. Joe Buck is a St. Louis guy of course and I always wonder how he manages to sound so neutral. It must be hard.
Today's controversy is all the talk about Kenny Rogers having pine tar on his pitching hand last night.
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MIKESNYDER
10/23/06 3:51 P
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| I guess I am rooting for the Cardinals. Detroit is in the same division as the White Sox and I don't want them to get too cocky. Also LaRussa used to maned the ChiSox and I always liked him. I really haven't watched any games yet.
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NITEMAN3D
10/23/06 2:25 P
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I'm with Russ. It's all about football now. If they had let me take a preference poll on who would least interest me in the Series, I think the two survivors would have been my picks. It's not that I don't like or like them, it's that I just don't care about them. There's nothing about either team I can relate to.. but hey, they can't make us all happy every year, right?
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| We're around. Most are probably paying attention to football now. My teams were out weeks ago and I'll listen to the highlights but it's minor trivia for us out west. You must be happy to have come out of Detroit with a split. How do you see the matchup changing now that it's in your house?
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| And you men call yourself baseball fans?!! Where's all the talk about the World Series? I guess it will take a real fan, a woman at that, to revive the discussion. Anyone watching the Series? As I live in the St. Louis area I am, of course, a Cards fan. We made it through a tough series with the Mets but the best team prevailed. And I have to say we have looked pretty good in Detroit so far. Nothing too stellar last night (we are tied 1-1 in the Series for those of you living under a rock!)as we blew a bases-loaded 9th inning opportunity. Kenny Rogers pitched a great game, I must admit, but wow, what a jerk he is! Could hardly stand to watch him. Is anyone going to help me root for St. Louis? Can't wait for the 3 home games coming up.
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CRAZY4BLUES
10/10/06 11:55 A
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And we're off! I reckon I gotta through my support behind the A's; they're playing very well. Can't wait for the Kenny Rogers game. I think that the key to this series will come down to the A's playing flawless defense, and Zito and company getting the Tigers free swingers to strike out a lot.
As for the NL, I'll take the Mets in 5. Just gotta love Willie Randolph; he's a real champion.
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Well, I was in mourning over the Yankees, but the Eagles triumph over the evil Cowboys has recharged my battery. Guess I'll have to root for the Mets in the series, if they get there. Otherwise, I really won't care anymore about baseball this year at this point. It's on to football now.. Ravens tomorrow night!
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MIKESNYDER
10/8/06 6:46 P
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| Wow!! I thought the Yankees couldn't be beat. Yet the Tigers, who didn't even win their division beat them. Way to go Tigers. I hate the Yankees. Living in California, I guess I'll root for San Diego or Oakland. I can't see the Padres beating the Cardinals. Then again I couldn't see the Padres beating the Cubs that year either. Who knows. Bring on the Bears (5-0.)
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JESBRESINA
10/8/06 12:27 A
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| SWEEEEETTTT way to go tigers!!!!
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MIKESNYDER
10/6/06 1:38 P
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Somehow these playoffs are not too exciting. The Dodgers cannot match up to the Mets. They should their young studs and keep the old men on the bench. I hate to see the Yankees win but it sure looks like it. I doubt if the Tigers can win.
By the way Niteman told me there is a football group in the "Guys Lounge."
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CRAZY4BLUES
10/6/06 12:34 P
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Hey, all. I am a bit under the weather at the moment, so I basically watched 3 playoff games yesterday.
I tell you, it's just uncanny. My prejudices about the NL were really confirmed yesterday. The Yankees/Tigres game was fun to watch; it was well played, and it came down to just one run. (The A's and Twins, for that matter, are playing good baseball, too)
The two other NL games, however, were just kinda BLAH, especially the Padres/Cards game. And, Sorry, Russ and Mike--but for Jeff Kent, the Dodgers really aren't matching up to the Mets. They will have to really turn it around. Perhaps things will be different at Chavez Revine.
The big story today will be whether or not the A's can close the deal. If they don't win today, things could get very ugly. We shall see. At any rate, I expect a very good game . . .
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MIKESNYDER
10/6/06 12:17 A
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| Hey everyone. When this is all over, come with me to the thread "Football Season." I can tell you all how DA Bears will win the Super Bowl.
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CRAZY4BLUES
10/5/06 5:28 P
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Mike and Russ: JUST . . . WAIT . . . TIL . . . about another 5 years. The Giants Org, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to rebuild.
Now batting, the designated hitter for the Los Angeles Angels: BARRY BONDS!
Goog luck, you guys!
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KATIESCARLETT
10/5/06 5:20 P
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| It was hard watching the Twins lose home field advantage but I haven't given up on them yet!
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MIKESNYDER
10/5/06 5:11 P
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| Did you see those 2 Dodgers being thrown out at the plate? What a bunch of idiots. I can use some help outside of New York. You folks haven't given up yet have you?
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| Baseball season is just about over for me. The teams I would want to watch on TV are out. Except for maybe the METS - nahhhhh do not like them either. Football will take my mind off of this one .
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I heard the twins were sending every player in KC Dom Perignon for their part in sending them to the playoffs. If Minnesota really liked them, they'd pay their bus fare out of KC to other teams.
I'm a transplanted Dodger fan in San Diego. I'll root for both teams but if it comes down to Padres/Dodgers, I've gotta back the Dodgers, no matter how much grief I get down here.
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MIKESNYDER
10/2/06 5:12 P
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| OK. I'm not dead yet. The White Sox still won 90 games. A little better pitchers and they would have won. Since I live in LA, I still have the Dodgers to root for. Their mixture of veterans and rookies is amazing. It will hard to beat the Mets but anything can happen in a 5 game series. The Tigers sure blew the division championship losing 3 in a row to KC. CHOKE!!
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KATIESCARLETT
10/2/06 11:28 A
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| Female crashing your party here! I had to check the mens boards for some sports threads. I'm a Twins fan and was thrilled with their win and the Royals win yesterday! They have made an awesome comeback from this June when they were 8 games behind the Tigers. GO TWINS!!! Especially Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau and Johan Santana!
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| White Sox season is over but was good while it lasted
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MIKESNYDER
9/29/06 12:42 P
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| I bet all those Tiger fans out there are now rooting for the White Sox to win. Where were you when we needed you?
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MIKESNYDER
9/27/06 1:25 P
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| OK. Living in Southern California, I am rooting for the Dodgers over the Phillies. The young guys are doing great and the old guys are playing hurt but winning games. The Phillies have a great team but they don't have the experience like the Dodgers. The Dodgers will prevail.
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JESBRESINA
9/27/06 9:47 A
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now the true race begins and it includes the TIGERS YANKEES and Twins for the best record
GO EVERYONE except the YANKEES
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CRAZY4BLUES
9/26/06 11:39 P
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| Yeah, Niteman, that DOES suck! I'm really cheering for the Phils, too. In fact, IMHO, the only way the Giants can redeem their season is to knock the dodgers outta the playoffs! Yup, that'd be sweet!
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NITEMAN3D
9/26/06 11:02 P
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Well, this sucks! Phils just lost their second in a row and the Dodgers are winning.
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MIKESNYDER
9/25/06 10:43 P
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| Congratulations to Dennis and his Tigers. The ChiSox will concede until next year. The Dodgers still have a chance to get into the playoffs. Will it be a New York Subway series?
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NITEMAN3D
9/19/06 10:47 P
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You guys make a good point about ballpark food BTW. They hold you captive to the junk they sell and they don't have one healthy bite of food in the park. Even the peanuts are loaded with sodium and cost about two hundred calories per ounce, so a little goes a long way. The least they could do is come up with some celery and carrot packs and maybe some veggie wraps. I'd far sooner lay out five bucks for that than a hot dog made of pig noses and bull parts, topped with a couple grams of salt and wrapped in white flour. There's gotta be some better choices they can come up with.
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NITEMAN3D
9/19/06 10:31 P
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Mike,
Are you talking about the Yankees getting rid of All-Star pitchers? Why? We draw fans, earn money and can afford pitchers. How 'bout the Cubs? They have more money than anybody and one of the worst teams in baseball, so it's not the money anyhow. Yeah, we have a couple big money pitchers, but how about Beam? *Wang*? Proctor? Veras? *Rivera*? Henn? Karstens? All these guys came from the farm... and that's just pitchers. Look at the rest of the team. (Think Jeter, Cano, Cabrerra and more.)
The Yankees probably bring up as many or more young players from their farm system than anybody in baseball. So tell me, why is that everybody wants the Yankees to give up their payed for ball players and everybody else gets to keep theirs? The Yankees or Boston come to Baltimore and the Orioles fill their stadium and they have a crappy team. Baltimore makes over $30 million last year and the Yankees lose the same amount. In the NL, the Cubs funnel all their money into all the real estate and media surrounding the Cubs and spend little on players. They're rich and do little to promote players, new or experienced.
So if you want to cap the Yankees, let's put a cellar on the hoarders that spend the bucks on everything but the team? Something is rotten in Denmark. It's just the "anybody but the Yankees" mentality and nothing else. Sour grapes.
BTW, the Yanks just clinched a tie for the East Division title. Win one more game and they clinch their ninth consecutive AL East Division title. Go Yankees!!
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JESBRESINA
9/19/06 5:53 P
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| good point about the pitching however your in CA dont they have sushi? you can have sushi and lite beer! and all the problems are solved JK!!!
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MIKESNYDER
9/19/06 4:00 P
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| How about getting rid of some of those "All Star" pitchers and bringing in some fresh talent? That will make my blood pressure go down.
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SERGIO06851
9/19/06 10:10 A
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| How 'bout peanuts and lite beer?
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If you gotta' have ball park food Mike, go with Cracker Jacks and diet soda and you'll be okay. Just stay away from the hot dogs and beer!
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JESBRESINA
9/18/06 6:11 P
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| oh mike that is not cool please remember it is only a game even though we all love the game dont let it cause you to gain what you have lost
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