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Thank goodness!
I quit playing MMORPGs not that long ago, and I was beginning to miss thread drama!
Bob is right. I haven't read anything in this thread that I disagree with him on.
When it comes right down to it, if you try to cheat the leaderboard, you're only beating one person.
Yourself.
I've made a DECISION that I want to live a better life. SparkPoints is helping me achieve that goal. I don't plan my meals ahead of time, nor do I track my excercise ahead of time. I have a busy schedule, and I can't always count on getting SPECIFIC excercise in.
What matters to me is that I do my strength on my strength days and my cardio on my cardio days (and I try to get whatever else in I can).
I try to stick to the meal plans, but things happen. I haven't "fallen off the wagon", but I DO use the SparkPoints nutrition system to make substitutions for foods that I might be lacking, or if I just don't really feel like eating a certain food that day.
Three cheers to my employer for always having fresh fruit and good water available in the kitchen!
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Actually, the names in red are people who have created a profile or a sparkpage. The names in black have not created either of these. 
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Thanks Bob! You're a good guy and pretty smart, too! (I enjoy reading your posts)
Have a great day!
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The folks in red have built SparkPages. Try clicking on one of the red names to see what this is about.
I think that the lack of numerical order is probably what developers like to call an "undocumented feature"  , but what users typically insist on referring to as a "bug"...
Cheers,
Bob
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You all are so knowledgable about the leaderboards, so I'm going to put this question to you because I've been off the spark for about a month.
Why are some folks in red and others in black? And why are they not in numerical order?
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Louise,
Points don't matter. They are just a means to motivate us to eat healthy and keep fit. So you should do what works best for you; the important thing is to keep with the program.
At the bottom of your "myspark" page there's a link called "Take SparkDiet with you" that might help you to prepare for when you're off the net:
http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/printable.asp
Cheers, and have a great holiday!
Bob
PS: I swear that I didn't crib my advice from Sandra, but we're clearly on the same page.
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| Kris, I don't think planning ahead is cheating. Whatever works is what you should do and who cares about spark points? Sparks is all about healthy lifestyle, and if it helps you stay on track when you plan your fitness in advance, then I say go for it! There are a couple of times when I have fallen off the fitness wagon and needed an extra incentive to get myself back in gear. One thing that worked for me was recording my fitness in advance so I would feel accountable to do it. It was the nudge I needed to get me moving again... if I had recorded it in advance, then I "owed" it so no choice. I HAD to get the activity in. I don't do this every week, but if you want to do it that way, then I don't see why not.
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Hi Bob, Louise here.
I agree with you and yes you kept me on Sparks after I wanted to quit because of the high points,but I am going on a holiday in six weeks time and the I learnt about the tracking forward.Do you think I should do those points or just leave them as is and then justs continue where I left of before the holiday. I am also moving to a new apartment in April and here in South Africa the installation of a new phone can take weeks,so I won't have any e-mail for a while.I don't know what to do about the tracking of my programme then. I am going to loose out on a lot.I mean the whole programme. I shall do all the things that I can remember.
Greetings
Louise or Lize10 on Sparks.
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For what it's worth, I see that planning your meals ahead is a legit way to get points. After all, the SparkPeople program encourages us to try to plan our menus.
I'm still dubious about claiming the cardio before it's done. When we set up our nutrition & exercise plan, it alreay tells us how long to exercise on what days, and it gives us calorie burning goals.
Since the SparkPoints are absolutely worthless except for the fact that they somehow motivate us, it would not matter to me at all, except that I've spent some time pleading with people on other forums not to quit when they see what they regard as literally impossibly high scores on the leaderboards.
Cheers,
Bob
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Plan it out 2 weeks in advance - your meals, your cardio, that's where I got all those points. If I don't plan my meals I don't know what to get at the store. If I don't plan my cardio ahead I don't know if I'm going to have enough. I have it planned 2 weeks out - that's why the points got so high.
Kris
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| Kris I don't imply that you are cheating. I also have high points but prefer not to be on the leader board.I compete against my husband and son which is also on Sparks.You won my husband today and he does not cheat either. He earned the points that he has honestly,but is also not on the leader board. He does get his points from working forward but rather all the points that he gets from the things he has to read.But I am still not close to your points although I work very hard to get to the firs 5.I still don't understand how you get points by working forward. I have just calculated everything that I have to eat tomorrow and the excercises by no extra points. I am baffeled.
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Kris,
I don't think that anyone has to confirm with your instructors... and I don't think that you're the "problem" so to speak. There may be those who are actually "cheating" to be at the top of the leaderboards. There was a time in the past when there were more points available for posting messages, and some would just post into a thread all by themselves to get those points...
As some have mentioned before, the program is here to help us to gain a healthier lifestyle. Don't feel the need to apologize when you're using the plan to do just that! I support your efforts, and am happy that you are losing the weight in a healthy way!
No more apologies!!!
Anytime you wanna chat, feel free to come by my journal, and I hope to see you in some of the challenges!
Take care,
Michele
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I most certainly am doing exactly what I plan and I am losing weight. I started SP on 1/21 at 162 pounds. I have been on here since then following my plan and working out. I am now down to 154 pounds so I'm very happy with my results.
If anyone doesn't believe me feel free to talk to my fitness instructors at the Y and my mom who lives with me and has to deal with all my healthy eating habits and my 4.5 year old daughter who gets to go hang out at the child watch at the gym while I go work out. Talk to my co-workers who have noticed the change in me, my 5 friends who have also joined SP and the clerks at the store where I had to buy new pants that fit me.
Yup - I'm one of those organized people and I do honestly update every day if I didn't do what I planned or did more than what I planned or didn't eat something that I had down or added something that I didn't so I've earned or will earn every single one of my planned points.
Kris
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Kris,
I think that planning ahead is a great idea. And if you actually eat what you plan to eat, I don't see any problem with you getting the points due to you. I don't see it as cheating at all.
As for feeling bad about being "labeled," just don't (feel bad, that is). You're using this program to facilitate your weight loss, and that's what matters. If anyone asks, and you're so inclined, you can share your method... I am not as organized as you, so I don't plan my eating and cardio days or weeks in advance, but I will do it for a day...
Ultimately as Lize mentioned, if you're losing weight, then you're a winner!
Michele
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| Kris, are you accumilating points or actually doing the exercises and the nutrition?You have to be a looser to be a winner.
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Well Bob - you can think I'm a cheater all you want. I was just as surprised as you when all those points were awarded to me ahead of time. I'm fairly new to this site and don't know how everthing works.
Let's just agree to disagree. I don't think I should be penalized for planning ahead by forcing me to not be able to participate in the leaderboard. I'm also not cheating - that's my opinion and until otherwise convinced I will continue to plan ahead regardless of whether I get points or not.
Kris
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"Sure Bob - already thought of that - but why should I? ...I just take real issue with being called a cheater,"
Haven't you answered your own question?
Also, the facts that other people do it and the application doesn't stop you aren't really very solid justifications.
- Bob
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Sure Bob - already thought of that - but why should I? What about the remaining 100 people with the incredibly high scores? Is everyone who plans ahead going to be called a cheater?
I guess I just take real issue with being called a cheater, I can't help it that the application works this way.
Kris
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Kris,
Here's a suggestion: remove yourself from the leaderboards. That way you can use the site as you like, and folks won't complain about your impossbily high scores.
You can do this by clicking on the "Spark Points" tab, then clicking on the "Spark Point Settings" link. There's a checkbox for including your name in the monthly leader list.
Regards,
Bob
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Bob - as someone who works in the IT industry and on an application that is the extremely visible myself, I completely understand about requests for little things when there are so many more important things that can be done.
Let me tell you that I don't check mark any strength exercise until it has happened cause I don't know what I am going to do until I get to my strength class. I input food into the Nutrition Tracker cause that's what bought me here in the first place. I use it as a tool to plan my meals - and I may not have eaten it yet but it's nice to know what I can eat and if I have room for a treat or if I need to increase my carbs or protein for that day, etc. I'm a planner and I use the tracker to plan out my food. No, I haven't eaten it yet but how else do you propose I plan out my food other than putting it into the tracker? Why have that tool available if it's going to be considered cheating if I use it to plan ahead?
As for cardio - the same thing!
When I plan ahead SP gives me the points. I'm not claiming to have done anything that I haven't done or am not planning one doing and I still don't know why this is cheating or bad. Should I not use SP for this? What should I use instead?
At the end of the month it will all wash out. Everyone will have inputted their actual consumption of food and exercise and I will long gone from the top of the leaderboard.
I also want to note that you can't get points for things like reading articles or doing a search or posting until you actually do them - only with tracking nutrition and fitness is this an issue - and I work hard every day to make sure I read articles and post to the boards.
Still wondering how I'm cheating.
Kris
PS - when you first get started on this site you - SP - tell us to use the Nutrition Tracker to plan your meals out in advance. I'm only doing what was suggested in the first place.
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" ...why is it cheating to plan your meals and exercise for the whole week and even for two weeks?"
You won't get points for "planning" strength exercise, only for claiming that you have done them.
The reason that it's cheating to claim that you've eaten food you haven't eaten or done exercises that you haven't done is that you haven't done them, and aren't about to do them in the next few minutes.
Planning ahead is not cheating. But claiming to have done things that you haven't is.
The "planning ahead" has had unfortunate consequences: many members are clamoring for the SparkPeople developers to adjust the system to prevent this behavior, while they'd rather be working on making more substantive improvements to content and service.
- Bob
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I have a question - why is it cheating to plan your meals and exercise for the whole week and even for two weeks? If SP gives me points for that and tallies it up and puts me into first then I can't help that - SP should change it if it's upsetting so many people. I have precious few minutes in the day and if I can sit down on the weekend and take some time to plan things out for myself then I think that's great but I don't think I'm cheating! I certainly adjust things - especially cardio minutes - on a daily basis if I do more or do less. But at least I know what my plan is, I can adjust my diet goals for the week based on my workout plans and not be surprised if I don't lose weight.
Just wondering why it's bad to plan to ahead and why it's cheating.
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SPARK_COACH_JEN
3/4/06 11:48 A
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Woo hoo, Sandra!!
Coach Jen
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Ladies... WELL SAID... You've given me a whole new perspective on this matter.
and Jen, What a GREAT Idea. I'm taking myself off the leaderboard as well. I am a very competitive person by nature and as much as I try to keep the right perspective on the SparkPoints, I still find myself feeling sad when I can't get into the top 100 (in fact, I'm afraid it was one of my petty posts that resulted in the elimination of the 1000 cardio bonus). I'm just going to pull myself off the leaderboards to avoid all temptation to compare myself with others.
instead, i'm going to target myself 350 points a week. this is a good and challenging level for me personally.
Spark is great. i've lost 35 lbs since last June and am still losing... i'm only 14 lbs from my goal and know i will reach at and keep the weight off forever. that makes me a big winner no matter where i am on the leader boards! 
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Awesome goals, Lisa!
I took a stance on this last night and took myself off the leaderboards. One can do this by going into the SparkPoints page. In the top left corner there is a link called SparkPoint Settings; there are two boxes you can check on the next page.
Good luck, everyone!
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I've only been here since last October and initially, the points were a big thing for me. I think I finished somewhere in the top 25 in December or January by busting my tail. I guessed people probably must be cheating when I saw the really high numbers of a few people.
Once the site went free, I wasn't even close to being on the front page of leaders and had to realize that's not why I'm here. I'm here to get healthy, lose some weight, get my cholesterol down, and make some great friends along the way.
Cheaters are hurting themselves. The only way they can hurt you is if you let them. I haven't even looked at where I rank on the leaderboards since the day I realized there will be cheaters and I won't waste even one sescond of my time thinking about losers like that.
Come on folks! Join a challenge! Have fun! Don't stress yourselves over these losers...the stress you get will make you suffer, not them. Obviously they don't care about anyone but themselves or they wouldn't cheat!!
Personally, I'm making my own point system. I'm creating a challenge against myself...7,500 miles by the end of the year on my bike(s). There won't be any cheating either!! In case anyone is curious, that's 750 miles a month, 187 a week, or 25-30 miles per day. When I make this goal, I plan to shoot for 10,000 next year!!!
Lisa
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Hi all,
I have been a member of SP for two years, and I have been really active on the site for the past six months. In the past six months, I have seen tremendous progress in my health and fitness levels. I, too, was sad initially when I heard the news about the taking away of the bonus for 1000 cardio minutes.
Please understand that this site has so many wonderful features, and that the earning of points is only one small part. I have frequently directed new members to the SparkPoints tab because I think that it is an excellent way to navigate to the other areas of the site. And five and six months ago, I found it motivating to try to be on the leaderboard. I say that all to say that I understand why you would be sad about the changes.
But please also understand that Sparkpeople.com has so much more to offer than the earning of points. There are so many challenges and support systems on the site, that there are other ways to find motivation. I have lost close to 50 pounds during the past six months (results not typical LOL), and much of it has been due to my participation in the challenges.
It is sad that a few cheaters have caused the SP team to take away the bonus points, but please, please do not lose sight of your overall goal.
From what I understand, it would take resources away from developing other content and features and bug fixes to focus energy on this issue of finding and banning the cheaters... And as many of you have stated... they're only cheating themselves. Remember that the bonus points are being taken from everyone, so it's not like you're not on a level playing field with the other non-cheating members... so, please, enjoy the site.
There's a healthy lifestyle to be had, and someone is offering it to our community for FREE! FREE!!! This is such an awesome site, and I feel that to focus so much energy on the change in the one feature is not productive. The SP folks are doing their best to provide us with a wonderful tool (and they're doing a fantastic job). So please, enjoy the food and fitness trackers, read the wonderful articles in the resource center, find some buddies in the challenge rooms, and be the best that you can be!
Summer is waiting, and I have a tankini with my name written on it!!!
Michele
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Wow, I've seen this topic around a lot today.
From the answers I've seen from the SparkPeople staff, I think they have other more important things to think about in order to keep this site going.
I admit I'm disapPOINTed (tee-hee) about some of the changes, but they've been made in response to OUR complaints. The SP staff cannot make everyone happy and I think they've done a decent job in trying to make this as fair as possible. And a little reminder, this site IS free, so let's give them the gratitude they deserve.
What it boils down to is that cheaters will cheat, and as much as it sucks to not have any control over what others are doing...we CAN control what we are doing. If not being able to log my 45 minutes of cardio tonight is going to keep me from doing it all together, I probably have a larger issue to deal with than sparkpoints! lol
And if this IS super-important to you, try starting a new challenge with Sparkpoints. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will play...and YOU can set up the rules!
Or start a spreadsheet and keep track yourself at home...and work to beat your goal each month!
Regardless, good luck on your journey.
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"They would not be able to sign up if they ban the IP address of the cheaters."
I don't think that's a solution. Most of us, probably nearly 100% of the folks logging in from home and a large majority of those at businesses, use DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuratin Protocol) to "lease" the IP addresses of our PCs.
If you use DHCP, you don't always have the same IP address.
Cheers,
Bob
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They would not be able to sign up if they ban the IP address of the cheaters.
I want to hear from Sparkpeople on what they plan on doing about this issue. If they keep taking things away, there will be nothing left of the site.
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I agree - get rid of the leader board and bring the points back.
How about an average point indicator that shows the average points accumulated by all members? This way one can benchmark against that without getting depressed from looking at unrealistic point accumulations of the leaderboard?
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"If you know people are cheating and have the evidence to prove it, then why are they not banned from the site?"
I can't speak for how they make the decisions, but I can think of two reasons:
1. Implementing the ban would take resources that could otherwise be used to fix bugs or develop other features.
2. It would be very difficult to keep a banned person from signing up again with a different (free) email and alias.
People are strange. For myself, I can't see how racking up points by cheating could be at all rewarding.
- Bob
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| If you know people are cheating and have the evidence to prove it, then why are they not banned from the site?
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| My wife and I are both on the site. We use the leader board to compete aginst each other. I really don't care who is number 1, more than likely I'll never meet them. But it can be a fun way for people to motivate each other for some friendly competition.
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Lize10,
This issue has been discussed on several other threads, including
http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/messageboard.asp?imboard=31&imparent=1595977
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http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/messageboard.asp?imboard=31&imparent=1590823
At the risk of being accused of spamming, here's what I wrote in one of them:
Folks in some other threads have figured this out: the cheaters are marking goals and exercises for future days.
I think the thing to do is to ignore the impossible numbers at the top of the leaderboard. Folks who cheat will have the satisfaction of having...cheated. In contrast, folks who use the SparkPoints to motivate themselves to follow the SparkPeople program will have the rewards of a healthier, fuller life.
I'll take option "B".
PS - Lize10, I'm DELIGHTED that you are back with us.
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| Tanks RSTINEJR and KMZ3301.We are back.The points still dissapoints me though.I want to be tops,altough not nessesarily 1st.But how to compete with cheaters?(excuse my english, not my home language)
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All that matters is that you are taking care of yourself. People that are cheating just to be #1 on a leaderboard to which you don't get a prize are just pathetic.
Lets get off the negative and support each other in our weight loss gains. Those that look like they obviously are cheating, avoid them!
And a question for those that are running the site, if its obvious that someone is cheating, what are you going to do about it? Warning e-mail? Ban them from the site?
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| Ack! This site is too good to let the bad actors run you off!
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| Now I am also wandering about all these points.I got all fed up with everybody complaining about all the points but now I can see.I mean, really the 1st of the moth and you get almost 400 points. Is it really worth it all.Do you want to impress yourselves or everybody else on this site.I think this is the last day of me and my family on this site, and yes we are really on the programme all 5 of us.All at the same e-mail adress and in the same house.Hope you get what you are looking for.May it be attention or cheating points or whatever.Have a nice day and maybe we will be back when all these points are no longer in excistance.
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"At this point I am curious how they can even do this?"
Ditto. I guess you could post to your own community journal, but you only get 10 points per 100 posts, so you'd probably need a script to submit the dummy entries...
Referring dummy accounts sounds like a chore, too.
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| At this point I am curious how they can even do this? It must take an effort! The only open end way to get points is to refer people. Without making referals it's basically impossible to get much over 200 points in a day and most of those points can only he awarded once. So do they refer 10 or 20 people a day? I can't imagine they are using real addresses. Perhaps there ought to be some sort of cap for the points awarded for referals.
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STACYANN982
3/1/06 1:37 P
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| This really does suck. Even though they tried to cap it there are still so many ways around it. Today is the first day of the month some of those people have close to 400 points so you know they are either opening fake accounts for the extra points or flooding the boards with useless e-mails to send out 100's of them a day for those points too. Most of the people on there aren't new members. I mean if they were fresh memebers I could understand because you do rack up some points when you first join and get to read everything and rack up all those points but these are people with like 4000 points already. Sorry for all the anger I have to vent as I am trying to force my self to drink water and I don't want to :p
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FSUMEDIGATOR: this is off-topic, but I love your motto.
Cheers,
Bob
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FSUMEDIGATOR
3/1/06 11:31 A
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| cheaters ruin it for the rest of us...is that how it works?! that sucks
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Capping the number of points you could claim per day would make sense. Like the points you receive for every 5 minutes of cardio are capped.
I miss the points too.
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Since they suggest that we should only weigh-in once a week, incentivizing it with points would be a problem.
I'd like to see the points restored for cardio, with some ceiling on the maximum you could claim per day.
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| Yeah, we are all bummed about the loss of the cardio points. I was wondering if they could add points for the weigh in. Of course it would have to be limited so that the cheaters couldn't weigh in 10x a day.
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Someone else mentioned this -- get rid of the leaderboard and bring back the cardio points.
No one is going to win anything special for being #1 on the leaderboard -- so get rid of it.
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Of course we're working on losing weight. But the points are a way of setting short term goals that help us to lose weight and also divert us from the grim business of how tough that can be. Even though they are silly, they're also motivating, and that's a good thing.
Cheers,
Bob
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| Ghee, enough is enough, so many complaints about points.Get with the program.Loose weight and follow the rest of what spark has to offer.You are working on your weight not on points.
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This topic has appeared in another thread:
http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/messageboard.asp?imboard=6&imparent=1520091
I know it's a self-selected sample, but the opinions expressed there are universally sad that the cardio points were removed.
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| How about just getting rid of the leaderboard and letting people get how ever many points they feel they need?
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I agree with all three points:
1) I love this site
2) It is a drag to see people obviously palying games with points.
3) The points are a great motivator for some silly reason and som middle ground should be sought. Points for lots of activities have limits. I think the solution of limiting the cardio points to one set per week or two is ver realistic and sensible. Here Here!
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Dave,
I know that your developers have a complicated site to maintain and their own enhancement rollout schedule to try and meet, but I'd have preferred another solution. The most obvious would be to limit the number of times a person could claim cardio minutes to something like once every couple of weeks.
I really ought to add how much I love this site. It's a great resource, and the silly little Spark Points are, for me, a good motivator.
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DJHEILMANN
2/20/06 4:27 P
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We agree 100% that people were only cheating themselves. However, we received a number of complaints and comments from members that it was un-motivating to see others on the leaderboards with artificially high point values. We try our best to balance the needs and requests of all our members to help everyone reach their goals.
Thanks for writing!
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HUNASEEKER
2/20/06 4:21 P
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I too am very disappointed in seeing the bonus points for the cardio disappear. It was really motivating me to do extra.
In my opinion, one can "cheat" on any of these things, but you know in reality if one cheats they are only cheating themselves.......
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DJHEILMANN
2/19/06 9:54 A
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The reason for changing the Fast Break goals points were because they were confusing to new members. Members would track Fast Break goals under the Other Goals tab and wonder why they were not getting points for Other Goals. As our site grows with more and more users, we're trying to work on things that confuse people so that it's easier for everyone to reach their goals.
The reason for changing Long Term goals is that many members were taking that to mean they should set a new Long Term goal every day. While that might be good for some people, in general that may be taking too many goals on to reach the goals effectively.
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DAYBREAKGIRL
2/19/06 8:43 A
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| That's right, so that is a total of 69 points that we no longer can aquire for ourselves. I was doing the points for me, they were a big part of motivation. Now, today is my weigh in day, and i gained a pound. I just feel like my stability is breaking down.
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| My question is why take something away that does not benefit anyone but the person getting the points. It is not like once you hit a certain amount of points you won a prize.I also noticed you took away the 10 points for making long term goals.
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DAYBREAKGIRL
2/18/06 9:44 A
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| But jen. they were a seperate point goal before. I got 3 points for my 3 fast break goals. Then i got 5 points for traking my other goals i have made since then. Now i only get 5 points for all my goals tracked. That is 9 points i can't get anymore.
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SPARK_COACH_JEN
2/18/06 9:41 A
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Daybreak,
Your fast break points show up in the Other Goals section, so there weren't points taken away for this item.
Coach Jen
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DAYBREAKGIRL
2/18/06 9:39 A
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| Well, i am starting to lose my motivation. I was doing so good making sure i did everything right so i could get my points. I was setting small goals to get so many points, or to get in the top 100, or what have you not, but now they have taken my 1000 cadio minute points, my 9 points for traking my 3 original goals, and i am really losing faith in this program. It takes a lot to get me going and those points were worthless, but in my mind they were a way for me to prove i was working hard. Sort of a recognition. But they keep taking things away. It didnt even really bother me that some people were cheating, b/c that made me work much harder to try to reach the top. Now i don't know what to do.
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KARMONSTER
2/15/06 5:59 P
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| Well I feel stupid. I didn't even realize or think about the fact someone could cheat. Gee, who would want to? Like so many people pointed out, you know you didn't earn them, so wouldn't you feel stupid doing it? I don't get it!
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Shoot, I was getting really close to the 1000 minute mark. (At this momement, I'm at 999 minutes.)
People can lie about any number of ways to get points. If they do, they get points, and stay fat.
I don't think that it makes sense to take away the 50 points for 1000 minutes. Frankly, that's not very many points for the work that's required.
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FROGQUEEN
2/15/06 10:52 A
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Thanks Jen! But those 50 points sure would have been sweet!
Have a great day!
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SPARK_COACH_JEN
2/15/06 10:50 A
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Hi everyone!
Just wanted to let you know that you can see your ongoing total of cardio minutes in the Track Cardio line of your SparkPoints page.
Hope that helps!
Coach Jen
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| Well, that is pretty crappy! Geez! That was a great motivational tool, and I was really close to getting my first 1,000. There are a ton of ways to "cheat" with sparkpoints, and it's not like they mean anything, except to each individual user, so why take away something that was providing a little extra motivation for some of us?
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PD, I personally have no idea who or why they changed this but your explaining shows that you are indeed an honest person who (and I would be feeling the same way) got tired of others trying to buck the system. Its not like they were going to get a huge reward for having so many points. The final and best reward is their new lifestyle and health. If they can't be honest with something as trivial as points, then they can't be honest with themselves and its these people who will a year from now, be wondering why they haven't lost, or they'll be the ones who give up.
Keep up the good work and dont fret about what happened. If it wasn't you, it would of been someone else and who knows, maybe there were many others who complained also besides yourself.
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| Drats, I would have reached my first 1000 minutes tomorrow. This is the first time I've ever exercised consistently for 3 weeks.
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The whole point system confuses me anyway
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DR.BANGER
2/14/06 11:58 P
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For the honest people that are mad at me for the SparkPoints bonus points being deleted (50 points for every 1000 min) All I can say is it had to be done, I think bonus points are great but I think a limit could have been put on them so you could not claim more minutes then where in a day. It really mad me mad that people passed me with 600 point days.
So I started complaining. Got me nothing. So I had to prove it so the truth could come out. Now in reality there are 1035 points on my totals that are not mine but the rest I did earn. Most the hard way.
Up and down the mountain. Judge me if you must.
Remember we are changing our lives as well as our shapes. hope to see a little less of you latter.
PD
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| I didn't even notice it was gone until reading this post. I guess some people don't know how to be honest, geeze...its only a few points, why would anyone want to lie about it? They are only lying to themselves in the long run right?
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I was 1 workout away from it.
Coach Jen says they took it away to make it fairer. People were using it as a way to cheat and rack up points.
I think its pretty crappy that a few "bad apples" have to spoil such a great tool for the rest of us.
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SECONDCHANCE2LV
2/14/06 8:30 P
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I know the feeling and i'm terribly upset by this i had two days to go before hitting another 1000 why would they take that away
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| It was always motivating to me when I would get up close to the next 1000 minutes mark to go for the bonus points. I hit another 1000 today and went to see my bonus points and they were gone. Why take that away?
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