Could Water Be a Miracle Cleaning Fluid or a Cure-All?

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4/1/2009 6:17 AM   :  66 comments

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Most of you already know that we are keen on water here at SparkPeople. So when SparkGuy sent some info about water as a miracle cleaning solution in addition to being a miracle beverage, I had to learn more!

I already knew that even plain old tap water (my beverage of choice) could hydrate, aid digestion, lower blood pressure, reduce constipation, reduce stress, and even regulate body temperature.

What I didn't know was that a certain kind of water could clean bathrooms, degrease a kitchen and even treat athlete's foot.

It's called electrolyzed water.



Electrolyzed water is created when tap water and salt are charged with a mild electrical current. The chemical reaction that occurs creates an acidic part (hypochlorous acid, a disinfectant) and an alkaline part (sodium hydroxide, a cleaner/degreaser).

The solution is popular in Korea and Japan and is being used in hotels in California, too. The Sheraton Delfina bought a $10,000 electrolyzing machine to solve the product's only problem: its brief shelf life. Salt and water are cheap, so they'll recoup costs in about a year.

It can be used to kill germs and has been used to treat burns. In Japan, it is used in some swimming pools instead of chlorinated water.

There are some people who think the claims are bogus, but there seem to be more people in the supporter camp.

The technology to have this water available for the masses seems pretty far off, so we all have some time to form an opinion. What do you think?

Have you heard about electrolyzed water? Would you be interested in trying it? Which claims do you believe and which would you need to research more thoroughly?


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  • 66
    I'm not sure I buy the part about having electrolyzed water... but... I have had EXCELLENT detoxing benefits using water (tap or spring water or distilled water - as I do have a distiller - but I've tried what I'm about to mention with these three types of water) using a specific ratio of water to UNprocessed natural salt (Celtic Sea Salt, or Himalayan salt, to lesser degree the Redmon's salt - but I find it has too much "dirt" residue). I've been reading from three books that I bought, all written by Dr. F. Batmanghelidj (website www (dot) watercure (dot) com . The common table salt that we all buy is a processed bleached product that only contains sodium chloride (plus additional additives to keep the humidity from affecting the salt etc.). We need a tiny amount, but we need it in combination with the other essential mineral salts to keep the body functioning properly. Evidently the natural unprocessed pure sea salt like in Celtic salt contains the proper ratio of the other salts - magnesium calcium potassium etc etc and it really does seem to help me when I drink the water with the salt. It does not drive up my blood pressure.

    My husband is already on BP medication and he's been watching it too, trying it himself, reading the books and he feels there is a difference. The author of the books was himself also a MD (he died a few years ago) and he even advises that one stay in contact with and consult with your own personal doctor about his treatments, to make sure your blood pressure etc stay within the proper ranges for your body. Just read and study, put it to a honest test. If it doesn't work, then by all means, stop it until you can get more information. In my case, water and the salt (about $8-9 depending on the health food store, or you can find them online or on Facebook etc) seemed like a cheaper option than buying their fancy expensive machine.

    I also tend to lean towards the food and water theories in the book "What Would Jesus Eat?" by Dr. Don Colbert MD - and I figure if He stayed healthy with simple clean water and healthy foods, it's probably good enough for me. I can't find anything in my bible that indicates Jesus used a fancy electric machine to process his water. Of course, for those who don't have any particular belief in Jesus, or are devout Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, whatever - this is just my "opinion" and doubtless not a compelling reason for them to try this or not. - 10/5/2010   1:44:41 AM
  • 65
    I like the idea of a tap filter to produce cleaning water, just like some people have a tap filter for drinking water. And it would probably go down the drain better. Interesting! - 7/13/2009   12:54:00 PM
  • 64
    Until a few months ago, I spent a fortune on bottled water, not to mention the impact on the environment from all the bottles. We had to buy a new fridge and it has a filter for the ice maker and water dispenser. YES! I truly can tell the difference in the taste. No doubt about it. We recently had to change the filter and I was totally disgusted with the crud that I could actually see in that filter from our "pure and clean" tap water! - 6/15/2009   4:45:43 PM
  • JERSEYGIRL726
    63
    Bottled water is tap water that has been filtered. Tap water, right from the tap, is something I try to avoid. Our Government has what they call "acceptable levels." You may be truly shocked to find out exactly what is in your water, and what our Government deems "acceptable." Suffice it to say that I personally believe arsenic is NEVER acceptable; I don't care WHAT the Government says about it! I mean, they sprayed Agent Orange all over Viet Nam, right? So this is how I have resolved this dilemma: I really want a distiller, but since I can't afford one right now, I save my gallon jugs and go to either Publix, Winn-Dixie or Walmart, and use one of their machines. It filters the tap water for me, thus saving the hassle of having that huge Brita decanter in my fridge, which doesn't hold enough water for the day's use anyway. My cat gets filtered water, as does my recipes. When I cook pasta, I use the water from the tap, but when I cook rice, I use the filtered water (since all of it is absorbed into the grains). - 4/16/2009   11:26:02 AM
  • SCARLETT57
    62
    Tap water is okay with me! - 4/14/2009   12:22:46 AM
  • 61
    I see the article does state sodium hydroxide, which is lye, so SFoster is correct. Lye with hypochlorous acid, is bleach. So just take some water, add a little some bleach....YUM! But it would be a great cleaner. The science behind this: http://webbsupplycompany.com/hypoch
    lor_nobleach.htm
    - 4/12/2009   10:16:01 PM
  • 60
    Yes, bleach disinfects and it is much cheaper to buy and add to tap water, than to product it via a machine or to buy it repackaged. (FYI, this is not lye, but my grandfather did use ashes, which contain lye, as a cheap way to scrub off the BBQ grill).

    Drink it? We rinse all the bottles that I do home storage of water with bleach before filling them. It certainly won't kill you, but why not just drink water from the tap. As to washing fruits and vegetables a little citric acid in water works better, tastes better and I've found (in my own home test) works better than salt water, tap water or bleach water to keep strawberries fresher longer.

    This isn't snake oil, but it is a high price way to repackage what we all ready have available. - 4/12/2009   10:02:38 PM
  • 59
    While I might clean with it I certainly wouldn't drink it. sodium hydroxide is lye and what I know of lye is that it is very caustic. - 4/5/2009   8:56:04 PM
  • 58
    If the Japanese use it, it's probably for real. They are the tech gurus of the world. Having visited Japan, I got to witness first-hand their penchant for cleanliness and efficiency. They are usually way ahead of the game on something like this. - 4/5/2009   1:17:31 AM
  • 57
    I have to admitt that when I use it or the bottled Distilled I see a marked improvement in digestion & hydration. - 4/4/2009   10:00:40 PM
  • 56
    I'LL STICK WITH THE BOTTLED WATER. - 4/4/2009   8:19:13 PM
  • 55
    Hmm.. I have a Nature@ filter on my existing sand pool filter. There is no cahrge involved, BUt you super-chlorinate the pool water after setting up the filter, .. It is a canister filled with trace elements, (Copper, magnesium, etc..) Within 24 hours, you can literally DRINK the pool water! My daughter has contact dermatitis and can only swim when this filter is in use. Chlorine scalds her whole body. We tested it and it is pure water, made iced tea with it! You only have to test your chemicals about once a month, sanitize with chlorine every few weeks if needed! - 4/3/2009   5:57:45 PM
  • 54
    This whole concept of electrolyzed water was the subject of a program on NPR a few months back. I think it may have been Tom Ashbrook's show. This is going over big in Europe and it definitely seems legit. - 4/2/2009   11:32:33 PM
  • DAWN2U777
    53
    I was diagnosed with Pustular Palmar Psoriasis a year after moving to Texas...I was given Chemo treatments and other very harsh treatments with no positive results. I had horrible blisters by the thousands and scaling all over my hans and fingers. My husband and I moved to Palm Springs, Ca. last May...in June I visited my 1st salt water pool. With in 3 weeks I saw an amazing difference...by the end of the 2nd month it dissappeared. During the winter it started coming back so I filled a bowl full with warm water and mixed sea salt (From Grocery store) into it, and soak my hands for about 10 minutes 2x a week. I no longer have an issue...unless I get lazy and wait too long. About 1 tablespoon sea salt to a gallon of water. No More pain. :) - 4/2/2009   11:10:26 PM
  • 52
    Bravo MYPOINTS611...you are far more blunt than I am and I love your posting. - 4/2/2009   2:49:48 PM
  • 51
    I would need to see multiple legitimate studies before I would believe it. - 4/2/2009   2:47:04 PM
  • 50
    In response to several of the comments, no you do not want to drink this water. It would be like drinking diluted bleach. As a chemist (and chemistry teacher) it drives me crazy when people talk about "chemicals." Water is a chemical. Salt is a chemical. In lab I had my students run current through salt water and capture the gases that escaped. Guess what, one of the gases smelled like chlorine. That's because there is chlorine in salt. Yes, the stuff you eat on your french fries has chlorine in it. And it is an essential nutrient - we could not live without it. And hypochlorous acid dissociates into the same anion as the main ingredient in bleach. It all has to do with concentration - electrolyzed water has less HOCl in it than your average bleach. But bleach isn't as toxic as you may think it is either. It is an oxidant, however, so you wouldn't want to drink it. Everyone seems to know about antioxidants (chemicals!) - make sure you eat plenty of blueberries after drinking electrolyzed water. Oh how I wish everyone was required to demonstrate a basic understanding of chemistry... companies would be a lot less able to use fear tactics to make money. - 4/2/2009   2:24:20 PM
  • 49
    We hope to get a new salt water system for our pool in the near future. WE hear it is just amazing. I have swam in pools at different hotels that do have it and it's great. You get out feeling so smooth and no red eyes from cholrine, much easier on your pool tiles and bottom too. - 4/2/2009   1:27:14 PM
  • 48
    Having been a Certified Pool Operator for 8 yrs I can tell you that if you have a "salt pool" or a salt water sysytem to sanitize your pool it actually creates chlorine in the water. Any pool water will feel much less harsh on your skin or swimsuit if you add so many pounds of salt.
    Chlorine is sodium hypochlorite. - 4/2/2009   11:47:27 AM
  • 47
    You really didnt mention the HEALTH benifits of it? Or was I mistaken about the Lead Heading? Is it palatable and healthy for one's insides? I hate sodium and rarely use it at all. - 4/2/2009   11:47:05 AM
  • 46
    I have been in a salt water pool and it is amazing!! There is no chlorine so when you get out you don't feel sticky or icky. It's like swimming in fresh water. The next pool I have will definately be a salt water pool :) - 4/2/2009   11:23:02 AM
  • 45
    I'd heard of this, but didn't know it was in regular use in some places. Also didn't know all that it could do. Great blog, Steph! Thanks for bringing us up-to-date. It will be interesting to follow the research on this and see if this technology eventually becomes more mainstream. - 4/2/2009   11:06:52 AM
  • 44
    Athlete's foot I don't have but if it cleans bathrooms and degreases, bring it on! - 4/2/2009   10:34:52 AM
  • 43
    I have never heard of this water - it sounds like a good idea. Certainly it would beat toxic cleaning chemicals. - 4/2/2009   10:14:43 AM
  • 42
    No, haven't heard of this before, but would be interested to find out more about it. - 4/2/2009   9:48:40 AM
  • 41
    I've been a water system manager for more than 10 years. The water system that I work for now uses this system (MIOX which stands for Mixed oxidents) for all of it's disinfection. I'm totally sold and wish I could convince all of the dozens of systems that I've managed over the years to get it.) How nice not to have to ruin all of my clothes with messing with chlorine, and the Mixed oxidents have proven more effective with less cancer causing disinfection byproducts so I can have lower chlorine residuals in my pipes and still be sure that the system is not contaminated. - 4/2/2009   9:33:38 AM
  • 40
    This is new to me but I plan to check into it further. Yes, I would try it. Lately I have been seeing tv commercials for a 'waterless' spray that is being sold to wash cars with. Does anyone have information on that? Is it similar to electrified water or what? - 4/2/2009   8:47:43 AM
  • 39
    I also have that as my pool clorinator. It is very nice for the swimming pool, much better for our skin, hair and swimming suits but not sure if I would like to drink it either. - 4/2/2009   8:40:02 AM
  • STEPFANIER
    38
    No, this isn't an April Fool's Day blog! :) - 4/2/2009   8:33:52 AM
  • 37
    It reminds me of some water that was available 20 years ago. It was called Bio Water and was only available through programs similar to tupperware parties. The water molecules had been broken down into smaller sizes permitting the water to permeate your cells better. My mom had fallen and scraped herself up quite a bit so she thouht she'd try the biowater. She sprayed one side of her wounds with the bio water and the other side she allowed to heal naturally. I was able to see first-hand the healing aspects! It really was amazing! But I lost contact of the gentleman I bought the water from after my son was born and never found it again. - 4/2/2009   7:09:19 AM
  • 36
    I heard about this a week or so before April Fool's Day. I think it is a great idea so much better for the environment. We need to be more open to safer and healthier ways to clean. - 4/2/2009   6:41:14 AM
  • 35
    I love the use in hot tubs and pools. Much easier on my skin, and smells... like water. Nice. - 4/2/2009   4:21:32 AM
  • 34
    I have never heard of it; but I would try it. It could save a lot of money in the business arena. - 4/2/2009   3:57:44 AM
  • DEIDRAANN
    33
    Isn't this the water we used to put in batteries when batteries had the little red caps and you had to make sure the battery had water in it? - 4/2/2009   3:20:12 AM
  • 32
    Thanks for snake oil link, fun site for science types.
    http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.htm
    l

    Pam - 4/1/2009   7:12:02 PM
  • 31
    This process as far as I can see is use for a specific cleaning use. The bad part seems to be that once it is electrified it is useful for only a short time to clean and not good for packaging and selling for profit. Who would be the competition? The major cleaning manufactures? Specifically the Bleach company's. Do you know what these cleaning products are doing to our environment? Do they have huge companies working to support the cleaning process to keep working the way they are. Alway look at the big picture before saying yes or no. - 4/1/2009   5:57:55 PM
  • 30
    No not for me either! Heck bottled water wound up being just tap water which was filtered & I have one (filter) on my fridge & a pure water system in a pitcher!!.. I know thats safe!!.. - 4/1/2009   5:20:03 PM
  • NO-41_RAZZYS_PL
    29
    If I can get more scientific FACT on it... I am all for it! This is a very VERY interesting subject... (licking my lips) and I am going to relish this new delish in all my wee hours of study! Thank ya' very much! - 4/1/2009   4:48:50 PM
  • 28
    Hmmm.... not sure where that came from but must be very far fetch. - 4/1/2009   4:45:08 PM
  • 27
    I have a water purifier that I bought for a trip to Africa a few years ago that uses a battery, salt and water to create a solution that you add to a larger amount of water to kill bacteria. I wonder if it works on the same principle? - 4/1/2009   2:53:17 PM
  • 26
    Since I live near Pensacola Beach, I see how "salt water" cleans and it is called "rust and corrosion." I stay with plain ole fresh water, thanks. - 4/1/2009   2:05:18 PM
  • 25
    This place reminds me of Cumberland Falls in Corbin Kentucky. During a full moon and during the fall ( I think) at night you there is something called a "Moon Bow" there is only two places in the world where this happens! I think the other place is in Africa. - 4/1/2009   1:33:08 PM
  • DAN_ODEA
    24
    As a confirmed skeptic, I have my doubts. First, there has been no independent, third-party testing of the benefits, only anecdotal evidence (which carries little or no weight). Second, as you mention the equipment needed to create this water is expensive (as well as rather bulky). Third, the water must already have the proper dissolved minerals in it; you cannot simply take tap water or bottled water and run that through the electrolyzer.

    I have an open mind on the subject; it could work, I don't know. One thing I do know; you should not trust Wikipedia to deliver an unbiased discussion of anything. Because Wikipedia can be updated at any time, by anyone (I spend time there editing science and music articles), Wikipedia cannot be vetted properly for use as a definitive guide. Wikipedia is a useful starting point, but that's it. Especially in the sciences, if you want the real scoop you have to read the literature. - 4/1/2009   1:25:51 PM
  • 23
    There's a short blurb in Wikipedia about electrolyzed water which mentions the health benefits are yet to be proven. It works for celaning and other stuff because by adjusting the electrolyser machine, you can control the pH of the water so its either more or less acidic based on what you are using it for (regular bleach = acid = kills germs). As long as regular cleaning stuff is more available and cheaper, I'll be using those and as for drinking, I'll just stick with my plain old tap water.... - 4/1/2009   12:37:20 PM
  • 22
    We have a saltwater converter on our pool and our public pool just converted to this process. It does change salt water to a type of different chlorine water. It is easer on the swim suits and hair and our skin but I also have a water filtration system to remove the chlorine from our drinking water. Great to swim in but do not want to drink it. - 4/1/2009   12:29:09 PM
  • 21
    April Fool's? - 4/1/2009   12:07:50 PM
  • 20
    I have never heard of it. How strange! If it works, it works. But it'll probably be one of those things I don't buy unless it becomes something big. Obviously if it really works it'll stick around long enough for me to try it out. If it doesn't work, then no money or time wasted by me! - 4/1/2009   11:43:14 AM
  • 19
    thanks for the blog - 4/1/2009   11:19:40 AM
  • 18
    Having had this before I can attest to its energizing and even pehaps its curing qualities.

    If you're curious to try this for yourself without obviously having to spend $10k to do it... see about dropping in on your local Asian grocery. If they don't carry it. Ask about it, they might be able to import some for you rather inexpensively. - 4/1/2009   11:11:49 AM
  • 17
    Wow - I guess I am thinking I will wait and see. I am from Missouri so need to be shown that this indeed works.

    Sunny - 4/1/2009   10:50:41 AM

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